In another forum where members discuss other types of guns, I posted the complete serial number of a gun that I own and that I was seeking information about.  Members of that forum warned me not to do that, because someone could take down the complete information about my gun, including the serial number, and then report it as stolen from them, getting me in trouble.  That seems pretty far fetched to me.  How would they know who I really am?  Is that a valid concern? 

No, it's not a valid concern unless you're a gun thief. Firearms-related activities seem to attract a fringe element with a heavy dose of paranoia. Don't let them alter your natural mode of dealing with the other inhabitants of this little planet.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it - even if I have said it - unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." -- The Buddha

If its mandatory in the state you reside to register all weapons, It would be impossible for fraud of that magnitude to transpire. Here in PA, all firearms must be registered. Pistols, rifles, shotguns, and even crossbows. Not just for fraud, but to Inform, say the police for a burglary call, that there are firearms in the house and what types. As such they would treat the perpetrator as armed and dangerous.

Even if its not mandatory in the state you live in to register rifles, it doesnt mean you cant. If said firearm is already registered to you, it would be impossible for someone to claim it stolen. If memory serves me correct, it would be considered fraud that you can press charges against.

Hope I cleared a few things up for you

Well, you cleared up one thing for me!

Bad as the gun climate is here in CA, I'd never move to PA!!!

I need to lead with the fact that I am extremely pro-law enforcement, but we've all seen how police - given the current SWAT team fixation - enter a home when the occupant may be "armed and dangerous". Fine if it's Sammy Slimeball, but they don't always get the right house!

Yes, pretty relaxed here in KS.  I think I would want to know if I had a stolen weapon, but would hate to lose it.  I guess that could only happen here if you buy it from a private party.

Here in PA, our stolen gun percentage has almost disappeared. In the case of Private to Private transactions, the seller and buyer need to be present at an FFL dealer to re-register the firearm to the buyer. Its a pain, but it protects the buyer as well as the seller in terms of someone say, performing an armed robbery with a firearm previously owned by a honest gun owner.

I as well am pro- law enforcement. Being a prior marine, I am for gun control and the registry for any and all arms.

my grandfather was a Police Officer that died in the line of duty by a simple B&E call where the firearm was legally obtained but not registered. It was taken by the perpretrator from the gun owner and used to kill my Grandfather. I assume if the police knew the firearms that were in that house my grandfather wouldnt have gone to the door alone.

Given your personal experience, I think I can see where you are coming from, but - I respectfully submit that times, and the police outlook, have changed, greatly, from your grandfather's day. Too many of today's officers would have have felt quite at home in the Germany of the 1930's.

I have no idea what being a prior marine has to do with registering guns. I know many former marines, and, to a man, they oppose same.

You and I will have to seriously disagree, but, this is not a political forum. I'm done.

kstone1020 wrote on Jun 4^th, 2011 at 7:31pm:

Here in PA, our stolen gun percentage has almost disappeared.

I can only imagine that all the multi-hued unicorns flying overhead are quite colorful and lovely.


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In the case of Private to Private transactions, the seller and buyer need to be present at an FFL dealer to re-register the firearm to the buyer.

Unless the parties have a criminal record - in which case the firearm changes hands with no record at all.  Mysteriously the correlation of "criminal" and "illegal" transaction seems to be quite high.


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I as well am pro- law enforcement. Being a prior marine, I am for gun control and the registry for any and all arms.

I'm all for the mandatory registration of keyboards.  I think that posting on the internet is a privilege, not a right, and that you should have to go through a very thorough background check, complete with prints, psychological evaluation, and, indeed, a very comprehensive rectal examination.  Yearly. I mean, people post things on the internet which aren't safe for children to view.  We must protect the children mustn't we?  I don't think that common-sense registration of keyboards, and the marginally inconvenient items listed, are too much to ask of law-abiding citizens.


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my grandfather was a Police Officer that died in the line of duty by a simple B&E call where the firearm was legally obtained but not registered. It was taken by the perpretrator from the gun owner and used to kill my Grandfather

My aunt was shot by a cop with his service revolver.  In your scheme that revolver would have been registered by my aunt wouldn't be any less dead.


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I assume if the police knew the firearms that were in that house my grandfather wouldnt have gone to the door alone.

Or they could do what they do in the rest of the country - assume the people aren't defenseless.  An ax hurts.  In England they're registered.  Move