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Title: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 5th, 2011 at 8:37pm
I purchased this 1896 Krag not long ago and have been trying to research it but cannot find one exactly like it. The serial number indicates it was made in 1897. I am assuming that it is a remake of some sort as the stock is different than all of the carbines I have looked at but has the original buttplate and barrel band. Overall length is 39 1/4" Barrel is only 20.5". Any information would be appreciated.
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 5th, 2011 at 8:38pm
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 5th, 2011 at 8:39pm
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 5th, 2011 at 8:42pm
serial no. 48523
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 5th, 2011 at 9:00pm
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by cody on Jun 6th, 2011 at 2:05pm
Could this be an factory upgraded model? Does anyone have any ideas??
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by 98src on Jun 6th, 2011 at 2:41pm
This is a "Sporter" that has been made by cutting down a M1896 rifle. It almost seems that there are more "cut-downs" than there are original length rifles. They were typically made by the local gunsmith or the owner, depending on the amount of skill and tools the owner had. They made ( and still make ) great deer rifles if they are in good condition.
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by knute on Jun 7th, 2011 at 1:23pm
I found an article about Krag rifles in a 1920 Fur-Fish-Game magazine. It was touted as a good inexpensive rifle for a little over $5 (a good bolt-action sporting rifle was bringing in about $50). It was noted that the carbine length (20") was the most desirable. It is ballisticallly superior to the 30-30 lever action, which was very popular at the time. The article went on to state that if your gun fell out of the canoe on a hunting trip you wouldn't be out much. It also stated that ammo could be had at $16 per thousand. It's a little more difficult nowadays to find ammo, although I've been able to find it. Reloading is another avenue.
The desire to have a Krag in carbine length for hunting must have lead to the demise of several Krag rifles being cut down. Your cut down Krag seems to have kept the original style sights. Most cut down types I've seen used a different front sight. I too have a cut down 1896 Krag. The replacement barrel is 24" and is from a 1903 Springfield (made in 1909). My handguard is gone, but I am otherwise happy to own it. It is representative of a Krag that had its usefulness extended by being sporterized. Not as valuable as a non-sporterized Krag. Its biggest value is what it means to you. |
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by fred on Jun 7th, 2011 at 2:04pm
As stated, it is a cut-down rifle. This does not diminish its ability to shoot, however. If the bore is in good shape these are great shooters. I have a full-length "correct" rifle and a cut-down carbine like yours. The carbine gets shot a whole-lot more!
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by butlersrangers on Jun 7th, 2011 at 3:30pm
Cody: Did you measure your barrel by inserting a cleaning rod until it stops against the closed bolt face and marking the rod at the muzzle? Your rifle picture looks to me to have a longer than 20.5 inch barrel. A carbine barrel is 22 inches when measured as I have described.
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by butlersrangers on Jun 12th, 2011 at 4:17am
The measurements Cody gave don't jive with the picture. It definitely appears the Krag in the picture has a cut-down rifle stock. However, the barrel appears to be carbine length. With a Krag rifle stock, the dimension from the rear of the receiver ring to the front of the barrel band is about 10 inches. The rifle pictured has more barrel length in front of the barrel band than behind. (Not likely this barrel is only 20 1/2 inches long). Also, the picture showing the front sight base looks like the barrel is re-blued but the front sight base is correct.
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Title: Re: new member needs info on 1896 Krag Post by kstone1020 on Jun 12th, 2011 at 6:03pm
Not a factory figuration. The Carbine came with a front band locker, with a barrel length of 22". Your rifle has been Sporterized. Many Krags have been cut down in many different ways. Making each one unique. As for originality, everything but the stock and barrel on yours is factory, the stock is original but cut, and the barrel is original but cut.
Over all, they are fantastic rifles with unmatched craftsmanship. In the 18 deer seasons i have behind my Krag, I have never had a mechanical problem. I prefer it to any other deer rifle I own. Fantastic rifle, dont let go of it |
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