mwhite49 wrote on Oct 12^th, 2011 at 11:08pm:

M1898 carbine 5,000 made using model 1898 actions. M1898 converted carbine 3,000 made using the model 1898 action. M1899 carbine first model made using model 1896 actions, 9,000 made. M1899 Carbine second model made using model 1898 actions, 16,000 made. M1899 Carbine third model made using Model 1899 actions, 2000 made. If I'm reading the prodution correctly they used what ever they had and built them in lots, with 3 or 4 distinct seperate models of carbines produced using these model 1898 actions. They were even used up until 1905 for some rifles.

I'm really sorry to advise you that the above is just plain not true at all - you have somehow misunderstood what was said, and so gotten way off on the wrong foot.

(1) 5003 carbines were made using 1898 actions, in the 112xxx -135xxx range, only. They were originally issued with short (30") stocks having a sling ring, and identical to the stock of the preceding M1896 carbine, except for bolt handle notch. Soon after issue, they were all restocked with long (32") M1899-type carbine stocks.

(2) ALL subsequent new carbines used "Model 1899" receivers. There is no such thing as different "types" of 1899 Carbine. None were built "using 1896 receivers"! They did have difffering versions of rear sight/handguard, depending on date made.

(3) All short Krags with 1898 receivers above - let's be generous - 140xxx, are cut-down rifles, no matter whether they are in a carbine stock, or a bubba stock.

(4) Some of the earlier M1896 carbines were later restocked using the 32" long wood as well. The 1896 style of short stock was last produced in 1897, and supplies were exhausted. These stocks have the M1896 bolt notch, and may be found with a variety of sights/handguards. They are NOT M1899 carbines. They do not have the sling ring - in fact, no 32" carbine stock had a sling ring.

Hope that helps.