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Message started by krag57 on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:54am

Title: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by krag57 on Feb 20th, 2013 at 3:54am
I would like to know the purpose of the, what I'll call, "sling swivel" located directly behind the bayonet guide/attachment. Also, I'm sure there is a reason why it is a "split" swivel and not a "closed" swivel similar to the two for the sling.

Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by JOHN42768 on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:01am
Hi, I believe you are referring to the stacking swivel. This was used in a field setting where two or three other Krags were hooked together to form a free standing rifle rack. It resembles a teepee. John

Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by Dick Hosmer on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:35am
That would be at least 3! after that, pile 'em on.   :-)


Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by butlersrangers on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:49am
krag57:  Two Krags could be 'hooked' together by their stacking swivels and a third Krag rested in the "V" formed by their barrel muzzles, thus forming a tripod.  Additional Krags could be leaned on the tripod and other gear hung on the muzzles.
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Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by butlersrangers on Feb 20th, 2013 at 4:53am
The 1903 Army Team at Camp Perry National Matches made unusual use of the stacking swivel as a sling swivel.
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Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by krag57 on Feb 20th, 2013 at 5:04am
Excellent information, folks; much appreciated. Now, when my kids (they'll be the fourth generation owners) inherit the 2 Model 1898's (1899 & 1901) many years from now, they'll know more about them than I did when I first fired them in the 1970's.

Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by Dick Hosmer on Feb 20th, 2013 at 7:19am
I thought all three were hooked together? I know that's how it was done with M1s, and the third man had to give a little twist to "set" the assembly. I'd think hooking two, and simply leaning the third would be a recipe for disaster. Once the three are 'locked', the stack will hold as many as you can find room for.

Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by psteinmayer on Feb 21st, 2013 at 1:12am
Believe it or not... the USMC is still using this practice.  When I was out at 29 Palms last February, I witnessed dozens of "Stacks" of M-4s/M-16s from the Marines I was working with.  I don't believe they have the stacking swivel, but rather use a device to lock the initial three together.

Title: Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide
Post by Top Dean on Feb 21st, 2013 at 2:14am
if the Marines do it like the Army does you ues the sling of one riffle and slide the barrels of the other two into it and thus you have you stacking base. Yes it does take 3 interlock with stacking swivels or it is a BIG mess in a very short time.

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