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Title: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by DocCasualty on Mar 17th, 2013 at 9:06pm
I've been searching for a couple of weeks now for an original sight base without luck (it almost happened, but that's another story!). I've decided to take the advice of a couple of you here and go with the repro from S&S, which I ordered. Since it's in the white, I'm wondering what others have done as far as bluing it. I ran across a reference online that these were originally oil quenched and was thinking about trying that. I've never blued a gun part in my life but think that any modern bluing is likely going to look too blue. Any experience others have had with this that worked well and ended up blending reasonably with the existent aged bluing of the Krag barrel?
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Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by butlersrangers on Mar 17th, 2013 at 9:37pm
I've come close (on Scotch-brite pad burnished steel) by applying a couple coats of cold 'browning' solution (lightly heating the metal with a propane torch while it is wet with the solution). I wipe the metal, between coats, with a wet rag. The cold brown may leave the metal a copper color. I then apply coats of cold 'blue' over the area that has been 'browned', heating, then wiping with a wet rag. Finish with water rinse and oil.
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Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by DocCasualty on Mar 18th, 2013 at 12:00am
Thanks, that sounds like a pretty good recipe. So the combo of the browning and bluing gets you close to that plum color, which I guess makes sense. I should confess I have a form of color-blindness, so I'm always cautious about discussing color. When I look at the barrel I see the blue (which is in the good part of my color spectrum) but it also seems to have a brownish hue to me too.
I should back up a step as I have had some experience browning barrels. I hot browned my Pedersoli Brown Bess barrel, or at least helped while a couple of buddies who knew what they were doing showed me the ropes. I also cold browned a DGW American Jaeger kit rifle, which turned out really well but you're right, it's more of a golden or maybe copperish brown. I still have some of that DGW browning soln. left over. It would probably be instructive to find some scraps of a similar metal these site bases are made of and play with the recipe a bit to see how it affects the final outcome. |
Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by gnoahhh on Mar 18th, 2013 at 4:40pm
I would try rust bluing it with your left over browning solution. After the rusting takes place, boil it in distilled water, then card the velvety black coating off (with oil-free 0000 steel wool), repeat as necessary to achieve a muted charcoal color.
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Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by DocCasualty on Mar 18th, 2013 at 10:18pm
I really appreciate the suggestions. In the meantime I've been spending way too much time searching and reading about various forms of bluing on the 'net, all over a 1X1/2X1/4" part! It seems "all roads lead to Rome" though with different caveats, durability, rust resistance and end result colors. There's a lot of excellent step by step instructions I've run across from machinists, gunsmiths, blacksmiths, period blade makers, and other hobbyists. Rather fascinating actually.
Once this part arrives I think I'm going to try oil quench bluing it and then probably follow that with the browning solution, with final dip in the boiling water and carting as you described. As long as I don't do something too stupid, worst case scenario is taking it back to the white and trying again. |
Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by DocCasualty on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 2:39am
I finally got a site base, pin and the proper height blade. I buffed up the base and am ready to blue it and the pin. The slot for the blade is too tight to allow the blade to be pushed in by hand. Should the slot be sanded a bit or should the blade be drifted in as is after the base is ready?
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Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by butlersrangers on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 4:05am
DocCasualty: Original Krag sight blades are generally .050" thick. The slot in the sight base gives a snug fit to the blade (so there is no wobble when fully installed). However, you should be able to easily start the blade into the slot and easily able to tap the blade into finished position with a light plastic mallet. I would recommend you lightly sand the inside of the slot of your base so the blade can be easily started into position.
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Title: Re: Repro 98 Rifle front sight question Post by DocCasualty on Apr 2nd, 2013 at 4:15am
Thanks for the tip. Just wanted to make sure before I started taking away metal.
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