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Title: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 5th, 2013 at 7:09pm
I bought a Sporter on an online auction the other day and turned out to a GPR converted back to 30-40. Were the actions proofed. Did the hole in the reciever indicate a lack of proof?
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Top Dean on Apr 7th, 2013 at 12:11pm
a few pictures of what you are asking would help!
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Ned Butts on Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:24pm
The hole in the receiver wall was for the ejector and is the only obvious indication of GP
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Dick Hosmer on Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:47pm Ned Butts wrote on Apr 7th, 2013 at 1:24pm:
How about the cut-down action rail, and the .22 CAL. stamping?? |
Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by reincarnated on Apr 7th, 2013 at 5:00pm
Were the actions heat treated?
Based on my limited experience (one rifle), that one does not have the slick bolt operation I normally expect with a Krag. Since the GPR was intended as a .22 rimfire from the outset, there would be no need for heat treating. |
Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Dick Hosmer on Apr 7th, 2013 at 6:09pm
I believe that existing regular (hardened) actions were modified, not purpose-built for the .22. Somewhere I have seen correspondence regarding annealing them to allow the caliber stamping. What else was done to them, I do not know, but surely removing a portion of the rail would have required softening in that area as well. As to whether they were re-hardened, that would probably not have been considered necessary, since the action was monstrously strong for a .22RF, no matter what. My GPR bolt is 'sticky', but I attribute that to a less-than-perfect plate system, which binds slightly.
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by reincarnated on Apr 8th, 2013 at 1:40am
The GPRs have very high serial numbers. IIRC, they were made 1906-1908, after regular Krag production was phased out. Somewhere I read that they were a special run and because they were .22s, Springfield did not have to pay a royalty on them. Can anyone shed some more light on this?
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 8th, 2013 at 3:43pm
Still learning my way around this website.Bolt action is as smooth as my other Krags. I'm in need of a Pacific rear sight if anyone has one to sell or trade. I have quite a number of vintage sights. [IMG]http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c127/ken1okie/22Krag.jpg[/img]
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by butlersrangers on Apr 8th, 2013 at 9:23pm
kenfuscious: Your Pacific base has a vertical hole for an adjustment shaft that is part of the missing upper portion of the sight. Is this hole on your base smooth on the inside or threaded?
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 9th, 2013 at 2:29pm
Pretty sure it's smooth.
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by butlersrangers on Apr 9th, 2013 at 9:58pm
I could help you with some 'upper' parts if you have the K-2 Pacific base that is threaded for elevation adjustment.
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 10th, 2013 at 1:25pm
Thanks for the offer! I confirmed the hole is not threaded.
If possible I could thread the hole for the screw type elevation adjuster. Do you know the screw size? Regards, Ken |
Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by reincarnated on Apr 10th, 2013 at 4:26pm
There used to be a Lyman receiver sight, intended for the Mannlicher type rifles, that allowed the arm bearing the sight to pivot. Could your mount be intended for something like that?
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by butlersrangers on Apr 11th, 2013 at 10:57pm
Kenfuscious: I checked the threads on the Pacific K-2 'upper' with my thread gauge. The thread accepted the 24tpi and 26tpi blades closely, but not fully. I'm guessing the elevation shaft may be 25tpi. Unusual, but may make sense in a micrometer adjustment. The maximum diameter of the threads is .185". I tried a 10-24 screw in the threaded hole in the base. It engaged several threads before jamming. I believe the K-2 sight used a peculiar thread. I have also noticed that there are surprising variations in K-1 Pacific bases which effects hole positioning. There must have been little gauging and a lot of hand fitting when they made these sights. I would recommend getting a Pacific sight as a complete unit or at least trying an 'upper' on your base for function, before buying.
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 15th, 2013 at 1:52pm
I have found a complete sight less the shaft that inserts in the magazine cutoff hole. Hopefully I can install the one in the base I have and end up with a complete sight. If not I'll just make a new shaft.
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Title: Re: GPR Sporter Post by Kenfuscious on Apr 15th, 2013 at 2:08pm
Another issue to arise is the barrel is apparently short chambered. I full length sized my brass to minimum and it's still a snug fit. I may try taking a full thousandths off my die to bump the shoulder back otherwise I may need to locate a pull through finish reamer.
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