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Message started by GySgt on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 10:46pm

Title: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by GySgt on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 10:46pm
I was looking around for nice example of a McKeever Cartridge box,  original ones hard to come by and usually in fragile condition due to their age, I thought I try to find one that was recently made to have one hand.

I came across Pacific Canvas and Leather Co and the products they make.  I thought I try one of their boxes in brown color.
Being a but skeptical on how it would be was laid to rest when it arrived. 

I was totally impressed with the quality and craftsmanship that when into making this box.  Beautiful leather it was a total surprise on how well it was made.  I am totally pleased.
Comes in Black and Brown and I believe you can order one with a USMC stamping as well. 

Thought I share this unique find.

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Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by psteinmayer on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:16pm
That's awesome!  Hows about posting a link for those of us who want one also...

Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by GySgt on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:22pm

psteinmayer wrote on Mar 3rd, 2016 at 11:16pm:
That's awesome!  Hows about posting a link for those of us who want one also...


Sure thing,  Here's a link to Pacific Canvas & Leather Company
Super fast shipping and Great Company.

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Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by psteinmayer on Mar 4th, 2016 at 11:06am
I'm going to order one...  I'll use it in the Roosevelt Match!

Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by butlersrangers on Mar 4th, 2016 at 1:59pm
Nice reproduction cartridge box. Now, you booth will have to get an '1897' tool to fit into the 'end-bulge'. It just never ends with Krags!

p.s. - (Never mind about the 1897 Tool. It won't fit properly)!
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Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by reincarnated on Mar 4th, 2016 at 4:25pm
30+ years ago, back in the early 1980s, I took an original to an old time saddle maker, a guy who had been in the custom leather business a long time.  The old timer took a long while explaining to me how the whole box had been constructed and hand sewn, said that he did not have the skill to make an exact copy and that he doubted that anyone still alive had both the skills and the tools necessary.  If this is a reasonable functioning copy, rejoice and order a couple.

Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by butlersrangers on Mar 4th, 2016 at 5:57pm
It is never Easy!

Franklin Mallory identified the Krag tool as the "Model 1894 Screwdriver", based on an 1895 Springfield Armory drawing.

IMHO - It is the same tool later sources (and collectors) call a "Model 1897 Screwdriver". To add to the confusion, occasionally a Krag Screwdriver will be seen that appears "armory-misassembled", (in terms of the side the 'drift-pin' is on).

Mallory pointed out that the 1894/1897 screwdriver does not seem to fit the McKeever Cartridge Box. (Which begs the question, where was it carried? In your Sergeant's 'haversack' with the 'pocket-watch shaped oiler')?

The tool actually can be put in the McKeever Box, but, it is not held very securely. The 'drift-pin' on the Krag screwdriver prevents it from sitting very deeply and it easily falls out.

Mallory speculated that possibly the Model 1868 Screwdriver and/or another ... "earlier, simpler two- or three-bladed screwdriver was used in these boxes".

My Model 1876 Combination Tool fits very properly in both my .45-70 and .30-40 McKeever Boxes. (Note - The Model 1879 Tool does not seem intended to be carried in the McKeever Box).

(A word of caution: S&S Firearms sells a $30 repro. of the '1897 Tool' and bogus/modified 1903 Springfield Tools are often listed on Ebay as "Krag Tools").


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Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by GySgt on Mar 4th, 2016 at 6:15pm

butlersrangers wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 1:59pm:
Nice reproduction cartridge box. Now, you booth will have to get an '1897' tool to fit into the 'end-bulge'. It just never ends with Krags! (Never mind about the 1897 Tool. It won't fit properly)!


;D You got that right,  never ends with the Krags

Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by GySgt on Mar 4th, 2016 at 6:18pm

butlersrangers wrote on Mar 4th, 2016 at 5:57pm:
It is never Easy!

Franklin Mallory identified the Krag tool as the "Model 1894 Screwdriver", based on an 1895 Springfield Armory drawing.

IMHO - It is the same tool later sources (and collectors) call a "Model 1897 Screwdriver". To add to the confusion, occasionally a Krag Screwdriver will be seen that appears "armory-misassembled", (in terms of the side the 'drift-pin' is on).

Mallory pointed out that the 1894/1897 screwdriver does not seem to fit the McKeever Cartridge Box.

The tool actually can be put in the McKeever Box, but, it is not held very securely. The 'drift-pin' on the Krag screwdriver prevents it from sitting very deeply and it easily falls out.

Mallory speculated that possibly the Model 1868 Screwdriver and/or another ... "earlier, simpler two- or three-bladed screwdriver was used in these boxes".

My Model 1876 Combination Tool fits very properly in both my .45-70 and .30-40 McKeever Boxes. (Note - The Model 1879 Tool does not seem intended to be carried in the McKeever Box).

(A word of caution: S&S Firearms sells a $30 repro. of the '1897 Tool' and bogus/modified 1903 Springfield Tools are often listed on Ebay as "Krag Tools").



Thanks for that bit of information, learn something new again today,       :)

Title: Re: McKeever Cartridge Box (new made)
Post by Rick58 on Mar 29th, 2016 at 11:42pm
Hey GySgt I ordered a McKeever from the site you listed got it the other day and am very Happy  thanks for posting the site info.

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