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Message started by ekpugh on Aug 17th, 2013 at 2:29pm

Title: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 17th, 2013 at 2:29pm
As you may have noticed I own two Krags. One is an 1897 left in original condition.  The other is an 1899 with a cut down stock.  The metal has not been touched.  I would like to rebarrel that one to make it quicker handling.  I am stuck trying to decide what to do.  I had thought of making it a faux carbine with a shorter barrel and a repro stock or go all in and make it a sporter with a nice rust blue finish.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by gunboat57 on Aug 17th, 2013 at 4:50pm
If you are talking about the rifle in the photograph with the provenance that associates it with Pretty Boy Floyd, I would not change it in any way because of its historical value.  Take the money you would've spent getting a shorter barrel and repro carbine stock and just buy a sporterized Krag that's already close to what you want.  Those are still available in the $300 to $400 range.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 17th, 2013 at 5:51pm
gunboat57 is on the mark!

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by psteinmayer on Aug 18th, 2013 at 2:46am
I agree also...  Amen to that!

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by gnoahhh on Aug 18th, 2013 at 11:55am
Ditto. Until I realized that the gun in question has some historical significance via Pretty Boy Floyd, I was prepared to recommend the option of going all in and building a sporter with a rust blue finish, new barrel, and classic style pistol grip stock- something like a well heeled Krag lover would have had done in the 1920's.

I would leave this one alone and scare up a good Krag donor action to achieve my sporter needs.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by Dick Hosmer on Aug 18th, 2013 at 4:17pm
Good Lord, no one should ever cut a full-length Krag these days, let alone one with an interesting provenance! Gunboat57 had the right idea.

The world is full of relatively inexpensive bubbas waiting to be rescued and beautified.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 18th, 2013 at 4:53pm

Dick Hosmer wrote on Aug 18th, 2013 at 4:17pm:
Good Lord, no one should ever cut a full-length Krag these days, let alone one with an interesting provenance! Gunboat57 had the right idea.

The world is full of relatively inexpensive bubbas waiting to be rescued and beautified.


I actually was not going to cut the barrel. I thought if I rebarreled to a shorter barrel and put a carbine stock on it and did not touch the receiver I could always reverse  the process.  After reading the  comments I guess I would just leave it alone.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 18th, 2013 at 6:43pm
ekpugh:  And on the plus side, you have an excuse to buy another rifle!  Hunt for one with a fine bore.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 18th, 2013 at 7:25pm
See the thing is this was my fathers hunting rifle and it means a lot to me to be able to hunt it as well.  I am not crazy about the thirty inch  barrel.  The sights are terrible in the woods.  He did shoot deer with it but they must have been in and open field.  I probably will go with and S&K mount for a scope for it.  I really don't think I would go and look for one to buy as the appeal is the fact it was my fathers.  I have a gun cabinet full of good hunting rifles.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 18th, 2013 at 10:09pm
ekpugh:  I understand the S&K mount for the Krag does not work very well and requires some wood removal for the 'band' that goes around the receiver ring.  Other options are the Kraghaus mount (advertised in the KCA classifieds) that replaces the rear sight with a 'Scout type' scope arrangement.  Another option is to replace the front sight blade (reversible) with a Marbles blade for the Krag and use an old Pacific or Redfield 'no drill' peep sight (also reversible).  These suggestions require no permanent change.  Nor do they require Gunsmith services.
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Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 18th, 2013 at 10:33pm
These sights often show up at gun shows, ebay, and gunbroker.
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Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 18th, 2013 at 10:34pm
Pacific installed (metal can be removed from sight base and staff so as not to notch stock).
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Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 19th, 2013 at 10:38pm

butlersrangers wrote on Aug 18th, 2013 at 10:34pm:
Pacific installed (metal can be removed from sight base and staff so as not to notch stock).

If you happen upon any of these that are for sale... Please let me know

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 20th, 2013 at 1:47pm
I have found a Rice peep sight for about 100 bucks.  Seems like a lot of money for what I see.  How are they mounted?

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 20th, 2013 at 3:30pm
Rice sight mounts on bolt by replacing extractor rivet with a screw and nut.  It works, but very basic and primitive adjustments.  $100 is too much for what you get - IMHO.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 21st, 2013 at 12:55am
How does a lyman 57k mount on the Krag?

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:28am
Ed:  The Lyman 57K sight requires that two holes be drilled and tapped on the receiver.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by ekpugh on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:49am

butlersrangers wrote on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:28am:
Ed:  The Lyman 57K sight requires that two holes be drilled and tapped on the receiver.


That sucks.  I thought it was supposed to be a no drill mounting.

Title: Re: A Quandary
Post by butlersrangers on Aug 21st, 2013 at 3:01pm
ekpugh:  Lyman did not make "no-drill" sights for the Krag.

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