Given the fact that this forum is made up totally of members who collect Krag rifles that all shoot .30-40 has there ever been any discussion about a group buy of brass by forum members? I don't know how many members there are but with new brass going for over $2.00 each there has to be a way to get brass at a decent price. Just something I was wondering about.

Not a bad question to ask! 

Midway has reported that Remington is no longer going to produce 30-40 brass for sale and have removed it from the site now (not sure about the ammo since there is still a market for it).  Haven't seen Winchester ammo or brass in a very long time now. 

It might behoove us to collectively start requesting that Privi start producing 30-40 brass.  They already produce .303 British, which ain't too far off from 30-40!

There are smaller capacity makers to consider.  Quality Cartridge (in Maryland) has produced some odd stuff in the past.  I have 3 boxes of 8.15x46R.  Their website says they will make several odd calibers when they get enough backorders.

Starline have said they won't produce bottleneck cases (too many additional steps in production) but they are supposed to have some sort of .405 Winchester basic case in the works.  The demand is for .40-70 Sharps Straight, which was made from .30-40 Krag cases.  We would need to buy forming dies.

Captech International (used to be Jamison) is also doing something with the .405 Basic case.

I think Quality Cartridge is our best bet.

Agreed

I sent Quality Cartridge an email.  Let's see what they say...

SAAMI chamber and case specs for reference.

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psteinmayer wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2016 at 11:07am:

Not a bad question to ask!  Midway has reported that Remington is no longer going to produce 30-40 brass for sale and have removed it from the site now (not sure about the ammo since there is still a market for it).  Haven't seen Winchester ammo or brass in a very long time now.  It might behoove us to collectively start requesting that Privi start producing 30-40 brass.  They already produce .303 British, which ain't too far off from 30-40!

I sent them an email when it was suggested in another thread a few weeks ago.  Not 100% sure I sent it to the right department.  Perhaps if we can get the right email for this we could post it here?
I would be happy to see them make ammo too.  If they do it, the question will be, what type/ weight.

I emailed Winchester yesterday and got a response. It said that they are planning a run later this year and that I should contact my lgs. I sent them another email to say that no online sellers even list .30 krag as it's been out of production for so long, could l preorder from them? Waiting for their reply.

Wouldn't take much in the way of form dies to make 30-40 from a .405 basic, I've formed a 6mm/30-40 using die bodies you can get from Lee as parts a whole lot cheaper than a form die set.  I think I went down to 35, 8mm, then 30, then 7mm, then 6.5 then 6mm.  From 30 to 6mm it was standard dies, .308, 7-08, 260, then .243, but then we're not talking about making 6mm are we?  From .405 to 35 I think I used a 35 Rem, then a 8mm Lebel, not sure about that, may have been something else, ditto the 35, but I had it figured out at one time without a whole lot of expense.  I'm not the type of fellow keeps my dies organized good enough to go back in the reloading room and figure it out again at the moment, I have a match to shoot tmrw and I'm busy loading.

For what it's worth, here's the email I sent, and the address I sent it to:

abn82d@hotmail.com = Quality Cartridge Company

Howdy!


I represent a large number of shooters and collectors who own U.S Krag rifles and carbines.  Recently, Remington has discontinued production of 30-40 Krag brass and ammo, which leaves a very large void in the market.  I, as do most people with Krags reload, but most of my brass is getting very long in the tooth (some of it with more than 20 reloads, and starting to show cracks in the necks).  Would there be a possibility of your company producing 30-40 Krag (formerly .30 USA) to fill this void in the market?  I'm sure you would have plenty of customers!  What would be the minimum quantity you would need to produce this (I would be good for a couple hundred).



Thanks very much for your time.
Best regards,
Paul Steinmayer

I got the following response from Quality Cartridge today:

Paul,




     We don't currently produce the 30-40 Krag.  We can add you to a list if you like and advise if/when this becomes available.  Our minimum combined run for this would be approx. 10,000 pieces and time to get tooling is approx. 18 months.  Provide us with all you contact info and we will let you know if/when we decide to run this.  If you have any questions, we will be more than happy to help,




     Thank you,




          Pete at Quality Cartridge

SC

IMHO, you've been (politely) told to bugger off. They're clearly not interested. I can probably understand the 10,000 rounds, but the 18 months for tooling is just plain insulting. IF they really wanted to make the effort, I'd think 18 days would not be impossible, given today's machining capabilities, especially if they currently make .303 British.

I agree.  When I checked their products, they only produce odd-ball calibers, with the exception of 30-06 and .303.  I was just a little offended with the curtness of their reply! 

When I have a little more time, I'm going to write Privi and Remington too.  I read somewhere that Remington is still producing 30-40 (regardless of what Midway said), and they are still planning a seasonal run for this fall.

Any trouble with cases made from 303Brit?

Reformed .303 is ok to use... but the case will definitely be shorter, and won't have the proper head stamp (not a problem if you don't shoot .303... i.e. wrong round for the wrong gun).  I would just rather have the right stuff to begin with.

I'm sure many of you use facebook from time to time, I have not seen this in any forum yet, but if it has been posted already I apologize. There are several brass groups on facebook which offer for sale or trade various calibers, including 30-40 Krag cases. I've picked up about 100 once fired Winchester cases in the past year, so it might be worth your time to subscribe to a group called "The Brass Bank', "Reloading 101 Learning the art", and "The Brass Connection". I hope that this helps someone.

I'm a member of "The Brass Bank" on FB.  Nice bunch of guys for the most part, but you have to be accepted as a member of the group via request.  I've purchased some brass there... but just so everyone knows, 30-40 brass is a very rare commodity there.  Most of the people in that group are selling brass that they pick up at ranges.  Some good deals... and some not-so-good deals!  I'm betting that most shooters save their 30-40, which is why it just doesn't come up much, IMHO.

One of the members here said that Remington will be doing another run of 30/40 brass this fall, maybe we could all contact or favorite reloading supplier and because of all the inquiries, they will do a bigger run?

I'd be in for a couple hundred if they do!

psteinmayer wrote on May 16^th, 2016 at 4:34pm:

I'd be in for a couple hundred if they do!

Me too.

I am of that mindset too when it comes to keeping the brass that I shoot.  I am also buying loaded ammo where and when ever I find it even though I have a hundred boxes of the stuff from ten years ago when I was rolling in dough.  I would have to dig through a ton of other stuff to get at it.  It is just easier to buy from the lgs.

Yeah... me too.  I have three boxes of Remington in storage that I may pull out and shoot through the sporter for the brass.

If Remington is truly still making it and Midway just doesn't want to handle it anymore... or if Remington told the suppliers (Midway, Cheaper than Dirt, Grafs... etc.) that they weren't producing brass for sale anymore, then that would make sense that they have all dropped it from their inventories.  I hope that Remington IS still making it though because there really is still a demand for it.  Let's face it... there's a metric "Butt Ton" of Krags out there that need to be fed!!!  Perhaps Remington will sell it on their website.

This might be what the doctor ordered.  Might help.  Might not but have a look.

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Fortunately, Cabelas in Dundee (where we met for coffee Culp) has had Remington 30-40 Krag on their shelves every time I've been there.  Unfortunately, it's priced at $36.00 a box!  Still, I may go buy a few more boxes next time I visit there.

there is a company called jamison brass and ammunition. if you would go on there website you will see the large  number of cases    that they manufacture. don't laugh too hard when you see that  many of them can be eaisly formed from a parent brass. they also produce many obsolete straight wall cases that there can't be the demand that there is for 30-40. i e-mailed them a couple months ago stating pretty much what i'm writing now. as you would  suspect; no reply. they are"missing the boat"
on another note in a search for brass. going on the shooting websites has pretty much dried up the supply. use alternative site searches. i live in pa. there is a site called pennswoodsclassified.net. i ran a ad it the reloading and ammunition section and got 2 hits that resulted in 45 pieces 18 factory loaded. another site; this one for trapshooters (which i am) also yeilded 2 hits. one for 250 pieces. the other for 1loaded factory rem. box and the mate that was a once fired box. what i'm suggesting is try other  avenues. how about an ad in the local newspaper, the bulliten board at the gunclub ( most shooters don't know how scarce this stuff is

Welcome to the KCA, Porthos.

A word of warning.  If you decide to go through the small run of brass job with Jamison GET A Sourth Dakota ATTORNEY to handle the transaction.  Every little thing in writing AND a non-performance penalty clause when they do not come through on their end.

Dirty rotten bunch of #%#^^&%*#%^#$ flub-a-dubs.

I inherited by grandfather's 30-40 when my father past a couple years ago.  The rifle was used by my mother's father and was probably last fired around 1965.  I am interested in getting this rifle back into firing condition.  However, as several postings have noted, the ammunition and reloadable brass is getting expensive and hard to find.  Therefore, the idea of a "group buy" appeals to me. 

I noticed that the last posting to this thread was from mid-May 2016 and it is now the end of July. 

So my questions are.....

Has anyone been able to confirm that Remington will be making the "rumored seasonal run" of .30-40 Krag brass? 

And if Remington is planning a production run, then is an effort underway to prepare a group order from the KCA members?

If a group order is being prepared, then I would interested in getting more details.  Since I don't already have a significant inventory of brass casings or loaded ammunition, I could be interested in 500 (or more) new brass reload casings, if the price is not too excessively high.

 

First, Welcome to the Forum, DWC.

Second, we are all in the same boat which is going on rumor and rumors of rumors. The only thing I can sugguest is you hunt down their phone number and an give them a call.  Or if you personally know someone at the NRA who knows someone at Remington (and Winchester) who could intercede for you and us about a run of krag food would go a long way in lowering everybody's blood pressure.

I sent Remington an email from their contact page last week and wouldn't ya' know I have not heard back from them.

Tag.  Your turn.

Best regards,

My son and I have sent emails to Hornady, urging them to produce 30-40 cases and ammo. They have sent replies mildly hinting that the request will be considered.

Hornady produces several lower volume cartridges and I told them that they would likely have this product/market to themselves.

Why don't several of you members also contact Hornady and make this request.

That is a great idea.  If possible, please post the contact information that you used, as well as (if you have one) a contact name at Hornady.  I'll email them also!

I saw a box of Grafs and son ammo at Cabelas and found the words "made under contract with Hornady" printed on it.

So I wonder if this stuff was made by Hornady also.

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I will be willing to buy either ammo or brass if we can find someone to make it.

  Now might be a good time to gang-up on Starline: their product line now includes .308 Winchester (a bottlenecked rifle case!), and if they are willing to make that, for which there is no shortage, AFAIK, they should be willing to make the .30-40 Krag, which definitely is in demand and short supply.

  mhb - Mike

Also, I'm guessing that there are WAY more people loading for the .30-40 than ALL of the smaller (excluding the .35, which has always had a following in the North and East) Remington autos combined.

Contacting Starline might be a good idea at this point.  I wrote Prvi Partizan last week and got this reply last night:

Dear Mr.,

Thank you for contacting our company, and also for your suggestions.

We would like to inform you that we will not manufacture 30/40 Krag, in the future, but we will consider your opinion in our development plan.

Best regards
PPU Team
Prvi Partizan A.D.

Starline may be our last hope...

I wrote Starline this morning:

Good Morning,

I am a long time shooter and reloader.  I load for many different cartridges, and I use Starline for many of them, but there is one that is now almost impossible to find anymore - the venerable 30-40 Krag (formerly known as .30 Army or .30 USA).  This round has existed for more than 120 years, and is still very much in demand.  There are hundreds of people shooting this cartridge on a regular basis, including hunters, match shooters, and recreational shooters.  I, along with dozens more compete with our original Krag rifles in registered Vintage Rifle Matches throughout the year.  Presently, only Remington makes live ammo, and only on a very limited seasonal basis… and no one is making brass for sale.   However, there is an enormous (and rapidly growing) demand for the cases. 

Is there a possibility that Starline start producing 30-40 Krag brass for bulk sale?  If so, this could be quite profitable as there are hundreds of shooters looking for it (I’d be good for several hundred rounds worth myself).

Thank you so very much for your time on this matter.

Very respectfully and with warm regards,
Paul Steinmayer

Let's see if they respone

Well FWIW I got a response from Captech / Jamison today after sending an email to them last weekend. Here is the reply:

"Hello Greg,

Sorry for the late response. We are currently running other products at this time, but we will certainly look into the possibility of running the 30-40 Krag. We understand the demand for it and would be happy to supply some to the public if we can. I can notify you if we do decide to produce some if you wish. Thank you for your interest in our business and we hope we can provide for you in the future."

Maybe all the requests are starting to add up and companies who can potentially produce Krag brass are starting to realize there may be a market.

I guess we'll see.

Stretch

Outstanding!!!

I'm new to the forum, but I'd like to get in on the brass group buy! The first time that I say and handled a 30/40 Krag I was 17 and the gunsmith that I befriended Hunted with one. He modified his, back in 1967 that was the norm for the average hunter in New England.

Also new to forum--- but very interested in a brass group buy.
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If anything develops, count me in.
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Thanks to those doing the leg-work.... !
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I am new to this Forum and looking for .30-40 brass.  I would like to go in on a group buy if that would motivate the brass producers.

Also new to the forum (been searching around for ammo with no luck for a couple of months now) I would also be interested in getting in on a group buy of krag brass. 

I don't intend to stay low on ammo for my Great Grandfathers unmodified rifle if I can help it....

Welcome to all of the new members.

At this point, we're trying to get some of the brass manufacturers to pony up to making us some 30-40 brass... but at this point, it's just talking/emailing. 

Here's something everyone can do though to help with the ammo situation:  Where ever you buy ammo and look for Krag ammo... start asking for it!!!  Presently, only Remington makes 30-40 Krag ammo (180gr Core Lokt), and only seasonally.  I am a firm believer that voices matter... and if people started asking in droves (such as at Cabelas, Bass Pro Shop, Dicks Sporting Goods, Every mom & Pop gun shop... etc.), then these shops would be asking Remington when more ammo is coming.  Eventually, Remington might get the hint that there is a demand for it and increase production!  If Remington starts increasing production... then maybe Winchester would take notice and resume producing ammo and brass too.  If nothing else, at least it gets people talking and that's never a bad thing!

FWIW - I emailed Federal Cartridge Company. Since they already load .303 British, I suggested they look at filling the vacuum for .30-40 Krag ammo & Brass.

Has anybody checked out this place or contacted them?

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I'll try to contact them today.  They offer .303 British... so there's no reason they couldn't offer 30-40 too.

Gentleman, don't despair - there is always hope....
Yesterday, I came across 260 factory loaded rds for $200.

Encouraging news!

I wrote to Colorado Custom Cartridges. LLC a couple days ago and received a nice letter from them:

Hi Paul,

Been many years since I shot at Perry. Good memories for sure. Your correct the brass for the Krag has all but dried up. There seems to be always a couple guys on gun broker that think the brass is gold and are skinning people. WE do not play that game. I can make krag brass from either .405 Win. It's dimensionally super close. Another caliber is the .303 British. It's is functional and depending on the chamber, may be useable a few time (reloaded) after fire forming. The .405 makes a great case BUT!! has several more steps to make it "correct". This means neck turning and correct sizing. Both calibers of brass are readily available.

We do load for several match shooters using a variety of calibers. Depending on the degree of accuracy you are in search of we can go either way as brass. Remington will "some day" run this again and there is rumors that an importer is making noise of making this caliber also. Are you shooting .308 or .309 diameter bullets? Another point of interest is that the .303 British reformed case is short! 2.215 in comparison to the Krags 2.3142 Having not shot this short case myself, reports are that they worked fine. I would choose to test some before ordering a quantity of ammo.

Let me know your thoughts. We are always up for a good challenge and "match ammunition" in this caliber is way over due.

Regards

It sounds like these are great people who understand the problem.  This might work out to be a great solution to our ammo issues.  I'll write back and ask for pricing on loaded ammo, and formed brass... and let you all know.

Depending on pricing, I could be into a hundred or two rounds.

I like the .405win idea instead of the .303 british because of the OAL thing. I'd pay more money for a case that is the right length.

Are we asking them just about brass that we can buy and load ourselves or complete cartridges? Brass may be a better game since not everyone would be into just one bullet type/weight. On the other hand not everyone reloads.

Not sure where Xhpmaster found 260 factory rounds for $200, but I just paid $200 for 100 factory rounds....and I felt like I was doing at least halfway decent. Prices on GB are even crazier.

Hornady has been producing 405 Win for the pass few years.  I have a Ruger #1 in 405.  I found the 30-40 ammo in San Diego area. 
I contacted Winchester, Hornady, and Starline about making 30-40.  Hornady answered me saying to check their list of brass at the end of the week.  that list is what they plan to produce for 2017.  I haven't seen 30-40 on there yet.

I posted this on Culvers, but realize not all members here look there.  One way around this problem for reloaders is to stock up on PRVI .303 British blanks, before retailers realize what we're doing with them and jack up the price.  I don't get to shoot much anymore so 105 stashed away is plenty.  PRVI assured me that they use the same brass for these blanks that they do for loaded rounds.

Things are getting pretty crazy.  I see 50 new Winchester brass going for $116 on gunbroker.  Over $2 ea.  The blanks cost me .74 ea, and that includes shipping.  With Cuba opening up, I might need the blanks for a San Juan Hill reenactment.

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It appears we've pulled enough chains that Remington will relent and produce some ammo!  Sportsman's Guide says they will have ammo around November 14th!  I'll be watching for the brass overage to hit Grafs and other suppliers, if there is any.

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That's awesome... but I do think we should continue to press Starline and others for an alternative brass source!

It appears as though MidwayUSA is expecting HSM .30-40 Krag 165gr RNFP on 11/11/16...

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We might just want to look into this to be sure that they're safe for a Krag.  Being that they are from Cowboy Action, they may be intended for "Cowboy Action Shooting" in an 1895 Winchester Lever Action, which can handle pressures in excess of what a Krag can.  Now I realize that this is just an assumption... but I would rather make an incorrect assumption and be wrong, than to not make one at all and be sorry!

Cast bullet Paul, no way it's beyond Krag pressure levels.  At that price, I'd buy something jacketed before I'd even consider it.  Flatnose likely equals no feed.  In other developments:

I got some of the PRVI blanks I pictured earlier in this thread. The neck and shoulder are not annealed like their brass for loading. I can't just simply size them down with the bolt as I do the reloading brass. They have to be run into a 30-40 die with the expander ball removed. I adjusted my die slowly downward till the bolt would just close on my parked Krag, which I know has the tightest chamber of all my rifles. They'll even feed through my parked Krag, if I only load a couple in the magazine. Blowing out a few scheduled for tmrw.

Update:  I fired off a few of the blanks that I'd sized down to 30-40.  Some of the necks split following the crimp, one down enough that I won't be able to get a full length 30-40 case out of it.  Looks like disassembly is the best way to go, gotta find my tubing cutter!  I shot them along toward dusk, pretty good fire ball and report!  Fire ball had a blue color to it, the empty had that nice smell of high nitro powder.

madsenshooter wrote on Oct 30^th, 2016 at 8:02pm:

Things are getting pretty crazy.  I see 50 new Winchester brass going for $116 on gunbroker.  Over $2 ea.  The blanks cost me .74 ea, and that includes shipping.  With Cuba opening up, I might need the blanks for a San Juan Hill reenactment.

Shooooot.  I need to dig out the the bottom of the "Pile" and get my winchester ammo.  Fully loaded, 2005vintage, Krag fodder.  Maybe I could get four bucks a round for it.  Just kiddin'  I could at most get three.

However I am on the road in M... Mi... Mic... Michi... Michigan (Go Buckeyes) visiting people and on the way here I found one box of Remington in a side of the road gun shop in Forsyth, Missouri.

Gotta look hard for it to find it.

I just picked up 35 rounds/brass of old Winchester from a guy for $10.00.  Not too bad for these days I guess.  I'm looking at it as brass only since some of them are old 180gr super speed and the others seem to be possibly someone's reloads...  9 of the reloads have been fired and the rest of the box is loaded. (They wrote on the box what they did: 47g IMR 4350/ 150gr Hornady Spire points but the un-fired ones look like virgin cases.  Not sure if they just bought the brass and loaded them up or if they are once fired already?)  I don't know anything about old Krag super speed 180's so I think I will just disassemble them and use the brass.

psteinmayer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:52pm:

Reformed .303 is ok to use... but the case will definitely be shorter, and won't have the proper head stamp (not a problem if you don't shoot .303... i.e. wrong round for the wrong gun).  I would just rather have the right stuff to begin with.

This is mostly all I use,and I just grind off the .303 head stamp.It's worked for 2 years now.

Following up on the blanks above, seems I got lucky with the tubing cutter on my first attempt.  It became too much work and a pain.  So now I'm running them up into a file trim die and cutting the tip off with a jeweler's saw.  I forgot I had that file trim die, didn't like it because it sets the shoulder back rounded, like a new case.  Since I have to anneal them anyway, that's ok for these.  The head is .168 thick on the one sample I measured, comparable to a few 30-40 cases I measured at around .170.  PRVI .303 for reloading measures the same as the blank.

Well, I've decided I can retire on my stash of Krag brass.

I just saw an add (on GB) for 3 boxes of unfired Winchester brass, 60 rounds total. The seller had a "buy it now" of $300 for all three boxes. That's 60 cases for $5 each. At this rate it's becoming cheaper to shoot a Martini-Henry. I think we've reached lunacy with regard  to Krag brass at this point.

I was given a box just like the one being sold last week and gave it to a buddy who needed some Krag brass, even loaded them up for him at no cost. 

Stretch

And I was kidding about the three bucks per case.  Sheesh.

Let's see, two thousand times five is ten thousand.  WoooooHooooo!   WAIT!  My stash is loaded ammo and not unfired brass.  I can ask for ten bucks per cartridge which would be twenty thousand.   I'll clean up.;)

I wonder how some folks price their stuff.  Kinda like people who sell common, beat up, pewter tankards for twenty bucks when the most they should is a couple bucks per pound.  Most of them have about four onces of pewter. :(

Has anyone loaded 303 brit enough times to estimate a limit?  I've got 4x loads on 50 cases without seeing any evidence of problems.  I have a carbine that groups slightly over an inch with 220 grain 308 Sierra RN and Varget. It's more accurate than my A3.

I got 80 rounds of remington 30 40 krag in Twin Falls, ID. The store has 80 rounds of winchester 30 40 krag left. It pays to look in small stores as the big stores are all sold out.
Hope you can find some.

$5 for 32 once fired at a small show in MN this last weekend. They're out there waiting to be found.

I called Graf & Son , MO and made them aware of this situation. I recommended that they get PriviPartizan to make the stuff as they already make other obsolete rounds that have less sales potential , and they agreed. 30/40 is listed as Graf brass on their website , just not in stock-back order. I enrolled on their notification list for when it gets in . Its a shame Americans have to buy overseas brass for an iconic rifle such as the Krag , but at least Graf listens

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I contacted Prvi about a month ago and was told in no uncertain terms that they had no intentions of making 30-40 now or in the future.  It was kind of disheartening that my letter was met with such a cold response too!

Graf's has Krag brass in stock....487 bags of 50 pc in stock , just ordered mine !

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WOOHOO!  I just ordered some too!

Anyone know who is making the .30-40 Brass for Graf's?

Thanks 'RedOak' for the 'heads up'.

Graf's logo on the brass and made in USA is all I could tell from the website.

I ordered some as well, only 100 pieces though. Not sure if it will be obvious who made it be visual inspection alone but I'll post what I find.

Stretch

I got 200 of them.  Hopefully they will have more around from time to time.

Stretch32 wrote on Dec 12^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

I ordered some as well, only 100 pieces though. Not sure if it will be obvious who made it be visual inspection alone but I'll post what I find. Stretch

Down near the base of the case, PRVI brass has a circle out near the edge that Rem cases I have do not.  Other brands may have the ring too.  Parashooter has sectioned enough cases he ought to know.

Word on the street is that Graf's has already sold out.  Hopefully, the right people took notice of how much sold, and how fast it sold.  Maybe now, we'll see an increase in manufacture from Remington... and maybe PRVI will start manufacture under their name as well!

Yep.  All gone.  Time to start the wailing and knashing of teeth routine again.

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How much of it will be on Evilbay today?

I'm sure the clowns selling it for $3 and $4 apiece bought it up. I'll bet over the next few weeks you'll see an increase in the amount of Krag brass on GB but not a decrease in the asking price.

As an example I'll bet this is new production Graf and Sons 30-40 brass:
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Stretch

Interesting that there's no photo, LOL!  I'll bet it is that Graf brass, although the current bid is the same price Grafs was selling it for.  I'm betting that they expect the bids to rise dramatically!

psteinmayer wrote on Dec 13^th, 2016 at 10:04pm:

Interesting that there's no photo, LOL!  I'll bet it is that Graf brass, although the current bid is the same price Grafs was selling it for.  I'm betting that they expect the bids to rise dramatically!

No picture because it probably hasn't even arrived in the mail yet.   ;)

Bought for 86 cents a case (Maybe).  Auction for a 100 cents a case.  What a deal.

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I would bet no pictures because they haven't received it yet as well.

I ordered 100 cases when Graf showed "ample stock" but haven't seen a CC hit yet. Hopefully I manage to get my order. If so, I won't be looking for any more Krag brass for a while unless a good deal pops up.

Stretch

I know that people are free to do as they please... but it sickens me that some would stoop to this level.  But I guess my dad just raised me a little bit better because I know how to be fair and honest!   >:(

I'm betting that the person listing the brass for profit like that doesn't even own a Krag!!!

Doesn't even own a Krag!  What sort of person is that?

I got my shipping confirm the other day so I know I got mine.  If they did this run maybe they will do another.  Now that they see people really do want the stuff.  Maybe they wanted to see how it went and what the feedback would be?
It sold out in less than a week.  Now lets see what it is like.

Looks like Captec / Jamison made the new 30-40 brass. Just got back from Europe yesterday and saw a follow up email from them to my previous email:

From the Captec Team

30-40 brass now available exclusively at Graf and Sons.

Sounds like they listened to all the requests we've been putting out. Pretty cool.

Stretch

I took a look at the seller's other items, he has lots of auctions w/o pics.

Not familiar with Graf and Sons or Captec.  Does Captec actually manufacture the brass cases or just source them?  The selling price looks like they are set up for pretty large quantities.  Based on the time it took for the run to sell out I'd expect them to do it again.

Evidently they have some more. I just ordered a bag 12-19-16 at 4:30 in the afternoon. Hope they're decent brass but they've got to be better than the mystery brass I'm using now.

Graf & sons is an Internet retailer.  Captech (aka Jamison or Jamison International) is an actual manufacturer.  They really do make the stuff.  I have not seen any of their Krag brass but I have used their 25-20 Single Shot brass and it is better than any of the WRACo or Remington brass from pre-WW2 days. 

I also have some of their 40-70 Sharps Straight brass.  I fired it in my Hepburn with heavy loads and it stretched.  Loads were probably too hot.

I just ordered a couple hundred cases and the site took my order.  Got a confirming email.  I'm perfectly happy with the Hornady 303brit cases I've been using but what the heck, I'll give these a try.  Never actually seen a real 30-40 case.

Maybe they had more coming and just sold out (faster than they probably anticipated) before more arrived.  If so, then this may just be the answer to everyone's prayers and Krag brass will no longer be a problem like it has for the last several years!  I sure hope it keeps coming...


Additional:  Ok, I just checked and it's listed as In Stock!  WOOHOO  Christmas has come early!!!

psteinmayer wrote on Dec 20^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

Maybe they had more coming and just sold out (faster than they probably anticipated) before more arrived.  If so, then this may just be the answer to everyone's prayers and Krag brass will no longer be a problem like it has for the last several years!  I sure hope it keeps coming... Additional:  Ok, I just checked and it's listed as In Stock!  WOOHOO  Christmas has come early!!!

I sure hope this is true.  If they can just keep it on the shelves for a while the hoarders and scalpers will start to go away.

Amen to that!  I (for one) don't have the financial resources at the moment to invest in a metric butt-ton of brass, ammo, etc.  The little bit I have acquired has to last me until my finances improve... and my old stock of brass is rapidly dwindling (giving way to age, neck cracks, etc.).  Knowing that I can get some additional brass at a reasonable price gives me hope!

Got mine in the mail yesterday. It looks like quality brass and should fit the bill nicely.

If Graf and Sons manages to keep it in stock on a regular basis then we're all in business. Hopefully if they make enough the price per piece will come down as well. Although, given that loading light loads yields 8-10 reloads per piece of brass (conservatively) you don't really need much. I haven't even dug into the 300 or so brand new pieces I've managed to accumulate and have just been reloading the 125 or so old pieces I've was given / bought over the last few months.   

Stretch