I agree... IMHO, dropping in water is unnecessary and just makes for further cleanup.  Once my cases air cool (about 15 minutes on average), I toss em into the tumbler to clean em.  I spin my cases to ensure even heating.  Also, you want to avoid directing the flame to the lip of the neck, instead concentrating on the shoulder itself.  Absolutely NO glowing metal!!!  When you have a slight color change about 1/8 to 3/16 below the shoulder, STOP!