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Message started by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:08am

Title: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:08am
Hello, I just received a rifle from my dad that was my great grandfathers. I’d like to get more info on it. Thank you in advance!! I’ll add more photos.
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Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:09am
Another pic
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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:10am
Another
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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 4:10am
Another
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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Culpeper on Sep 28th, 2017 at 6:33am
You have a Model 1899 carbine, brother.  Run a cleaning rod down the barrel to a closed bolt.  Should be twenty-two inches.  Stock on the other hand has problems.  Do you have a pic of the right side of the stock at the barrel band?  ...and a good pic of the muzzle with the front sight?


Culpeper

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 11:49am
Thanks

I don’t, but I will post them this evening when I get home from work.

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 28th, 2017 at 2:03pm
How about the year? Any clue?

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Culpeper on Sep 28th, 2017 at 2:58pm

Quadjr4 wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 2:03pm:
How about the year? Any clue?


At least, after FY1899 but before FY1903.  I don't have my Mallory or Farmer books here in Djibouti.  One of the other guys will have to meander along and speak up.

Title: Re: New here!
Post by butlersrangers on Sep 28th, 2017 at 3:41pm
U.S. model 1899 Krag carbine, #357169 (?), would have been assembled at Springfield Armory around November, 1901.

Your Krag carbine was altered by someone to use it for Hunting - (ventilated rubber butt-pad, dove-tailed sporting rear-sight, and improvised sling & swivels).

Your photos don't show Stock or front-sight well enough to tell if they are original carbine parts.

Model 1899 Krags were only built as carbines.

Welcome to the KCA Forum. Nice family heirloom!


Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 29th, 2017 at 12:57am
Thanks for the responses!!
Here’s a couple more pictures

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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 29th, 2017 at 12:58am
Not a great pic
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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 29th, 2017 at 1:00am
Another
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Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 29th, 2017 at 1:02am

butlersrangers wrote on Sep 28th, 2017 at 3:41pm:
U.S. model 1899 Krag carbine, #357169 (?), would have been assembled at Springfield Armory around November, 1901.

Your Krag carbine was altered by someone to use it for Hunting - (ventilated rubber butt-pad, dove-tailed sporting rear-sight, and improvised sling & swivels).

Your photos don't show Stock or front-sight well enough to tell if they are original carbine parts.

Model 1899 Krags were only built as carbines.

Welcome to the KCA Forum. Nice family heirloom!




I think the number on it says 857159... I think. Possibly  69

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Sep 29th, 2017 at 1:12am
Ammo 30-40krag?

Title: Re: New here!
Post by butlersrangers on Sep 29th, 2017 at 4:01am
Your Krag's stock is a model 1899 carbine stock, that someone defaced by putting on the rubber butt-pad. Your stock lacked sling-swivels. A hunter improvised some.

Your Krag is chambered for the U.S. .30-40 cartridge, unless someone re-chambered it - (unlikely).

Sometimes Krag serial numbers are very deeply stamped and it is easy to misread digits. 3s can look like 8s. 6s can look like 8s. 5s, 9s and 8s can be confused.

Highest U.S. Krag serial numbers are in the 480K range.

Your number is in 357,XXX range. Your pictures are poor in clarity. A magnifying glass and good lighting should help you decipher your number.

Title: Re: New here!
Post by AFJuvat on Sep 29th, 2017 at 2:31pm
Welcome!

Nice family heirloom.

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Quadjr4 on Oct 2nd, 2017 at 1:56pm
Thank you!!

Title: Re: New here!
Post by Dick Hosmer on Oct 2nd, 2017 at 3:43pm
Since it is a 6-digit number, there are only four possibilities, so the first digit HAS to be a 3 (as it is clearly not a 1, 2 or 4) but a casual glance does show why the "8" nonsense comes up - very poor quality strike.

Title: Re: New here!
Post by butlersrangers on Oct 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm
What Dick said.

We know less than 1/2 million, (500,000), U.S. Krags of all models and configurations were made. (We can eliminate 5 through 9 as the possible first digit).

I tried clearing up a couple of OP's pictures. It is easy to see how numbers can be confusing. Front sight and muzzle are battered, but, carbine.
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