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Message started by timmholt on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:15pm

Title: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by timmholt on Jan 22nd, 2018 at 11:15pm
I got a reproduction handguard (second hand) for an 1898 that has no clips, nor holes for rivets. 

Not having an original to examine, I'm not 100% clear on what the exact curvature of the clips should be, or radius as compared to barrel diameter.  I assume they are a basic "C" shape,

I suppose my two questions are...

First, I assume they are more than 180 degrees of a circle, and so about how much of an actual circle are they?  Closer to 225 degrees?

Second, is the curvature circular to match the barrel, or is it a tighter radius such that the clips will "pinch" the barrel?

What I wish I could find is a photo of a handguard from the end to show the clip curvature clearly. 


Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by butlersrangers on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:45am
This is the best I can do, tonight with photos.

BTW - Krag hand-guard 'clips' seem to be spring steel.

1. Crude repro hand-guard & springs.

2. Fit of rear hand-guard clip on barrel.

3. Quarter (rear) and Nickel (front) are held by 'clips'.
hand-guard_repro2_002.jpg ( 35 KB | 2 Downloads )
hand_guard_spring_001.jpg ( 36 KB | 1 Download )
krag-HG30cnts_005.JPG ( 75 KB | 2 Downloads )

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by timmholt on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 12:54am
Thanks butlersrangers - that's helpful.  It does look from that as if they are just a basic part of a circle - the nickels show that. 

I know whatever I do won't be ideal, but perhaps I can "do it right" some day. 

BTW I don't know who made the handguard, but I believe it's one of the type I've seen mentioned that didn't come with the bands.  Boyd's was it?

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by butlersrangers on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 1:31am
'timmholt' - I never messed with a hand-guard that did not have 'clips'. I believe you are correct about Boyd hand-guards lacking them.

Here is a picture of an original '1902' hand-guard, which shows much better workmanship on the rivets than a repro.
hand-guard_1902.jpg ( 74 KB | 0 Downloads )

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by Local Boy on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 1:41am
Hi Timmholt,

I wonder if the folks at East Taylor LLC might help with your dilemma?  Additionally, on eBay, some folks have listed 1903 handguard clips.  I was thinking that maybe they could be modified for your use?

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Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by timmholt on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 5:46am

Local Boy wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 1:41am:
Hi Timmholt,

I wonder if the folks at East Taylor LLC might help with your dilemma? 


Hmm good thought.  If they make them perhaps they'd be willing to sell some?

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by timmholt on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 5:50am
Anyone have an original that could measure the rivet head diameter on the outside?

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by Local Boy on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:44am
About 1/4 inch or 6.3 mm.

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by timmholt on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:53am

Local Boy wrote on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 6:44am:
About 1/4 inch or 6.3 mm.


Thanks!

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by Ned Butts on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 11:39am
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They used to sell clips  but I didn't see them listed now. I you contact them they may have some or a source.

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by butlersrangers on Jan 23rd, 2018 at 4:53pm
Here is an interesting use for a Krag hand-guard 'clip'.

An advanced 'Bubba' re-purposed one to serve as a Snap On 'barrel-band' on his sporting Krag.

It seems to have worked. No stock cracks behind the action!
krag_improvised_barrel_anchor.jpg ( 32 KB | 0 Downloads )
krag_improvised_barrel_anchor-1.jpg ( 53 KB | 0 Downloads )

Title: Re: Making barrle clips for an 1898 handguard
Post by madsenshooter on Jan 24th, 2018 at 2:02am
Ha, I was looking at that rifle, thought that was a handguard clip.  At one time I got some rivets off ebay that look about right.  I have one of those Boyd handguards too.

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