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Title: Help identifying this Krag Post by cb1 on Jul 18th, 2018 at 8:37pm
I'm hoping someone here could help me ID this rifle.
I know nothing about Krags, and this one just came into my possession, so I'm curious to find out what I have. It looks at first blush to be a carbine, but the serial is in the 293*** range. After some basic googling, it looks to be a cut down or modified rifle. The stock has clearly been modified. I'm hoping someone much more knowledgeable than me could provide some additional info. Thanks in advance for any help. |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by Culpeper on Jul 18th, 2018 at 9:20pm
Welcome to the forum, cb1. The smart guys will be along in a bit.
You have a cutdown rifle with a M1903 front sight and sight cover with an aftermarket rear sight. Stock is a cutdown rifle stock with a nice pistol grip extention added. best regards Culpeper, the Great and Wonderful |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by butlersrangers on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:59am
'cb1' - Welcome to the KCA Forum!
I believe you and 'Culpeper' have covered all the basics. A Krag in the 293XXX range was likely built around, September to October, 1900. (A carbine in that period would have been marked 'model 1899', so you do have a 'cut-down' rifle). A complete serial number would allow checking to see if it appears in Springfield Research Services data (SRS). A picture of your 'after-market ' rear sight would allow sight maker & model identification. (I tend to be a gun-sight junkie)! p.s. - 'Culpeper', it is hard to respond to a post, when you say: "The smart guys will be along in a bit". OUCH! 'butlersrangers' the meek and humble |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by Culpeper on Jul 19th, 2018 at 7:21am
I only ever say that with reverence. You fellas know more about Krags than I ever will. I don't have the depth of knowledge to give anything more than the basics and a bit of goofy humor
with respect Culpeper |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by Knute1 on Jul 19th, 2018 at 12:24pm
A more period correct sign off (vs. meek and humble) would be:
"Your most humble and obedient servant" or "Very respectfully, your obedient servant" Just sayin. Good to see another Krag come to surface. Your most humble and obedient servant, Knute1 |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by butlersrangers on Jul 19th, 2018 at 1:06pm
I don't know, Knute: that sounds sooo .... 18th century.
How about: "Mit Gott und Mauser .... er, Krag-Jorgensen"? |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by cb1 on Jul 19th, 2018 at 4:48pm
Thanks for the info, Culpeper and butlersrangers. I appreciate it.
The serial is 293653. A clearer picture of the rear sight is below. Does a krag like this have any value from a collector standpoint? I would think not if it's been modified to this degree. The action is smooth and the bore looks good, so I might just clean it up a bit and see what it turns into. |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by Rcat7147 on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:05pm
In reply to the cleaning,
I might suggest the 3M stainless steel scrubbing pads. These: (You need to Login The whole premise is it's "harder than rust but softer than the steel." Trust me, I thought it was hogwash too until I tried it. I've attached a before and after on one of my own guns. This Krag would greatly benefit from these pads and some elbow grease. I use them dry then give a good wipe down with an oily rag. |
Title: Re: Help identifying this Krag Post by butlersrangers on Jul 19th, 2018 at 5:22pm
'cb1' - You have the makings of a good utility & hunting Krag.
You will want to repair the Stock cracks by working in some 'Accra-glass' (epoxy-bedding) compound. Clean the metal using a rag with kerosene, mineral-spirits, or denatured alcohol. (A good soak can help). Light rust can be improve by lightly rubbing with #0000 steel-wool saturated with Hope's #9 solvent. Heavier rust deposits sometimes respond to bronze brush or edge of a copper penny. Soak rust area with linseed oil and work rust patches with brush or coin-edge. It makes kind of an abrasive 'slurry', that should be wiped occasionally with paper towel, then re-do with clean linseed oil; (I sometimes add a little rotten stone to the linseed oil). Check your progress as you go along. The goal is to preserve original finish and age patina. Avoid harsh abrasives, emery cloth, wire-wheels, and naval-jelly! It's an old gun. You want character, not 'new'. Your rear sight is a commercial 'Pacific' K2 (manufactured in San Francisco from approximately 1928 to 1953). A lot of people like the 'micrometer' K2 version. No SRS 'hit' on #293653. (p.s. - I was responding at same time as 'Rcat'. I was not questioning his method). |
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