Jack Scwartz/Parts for antique guns is no longer making Krag wood, this is very bad for me, going to really put a crimp on a favorite hobby

I had emailed him and he said it was a permanent situation. Not good news at all. I wonder if he made them or if they were outsourced. Would be nice if someone could acquire the plans/equipment and put them back into production.

Just sent an email to them, asking that very question.

I received a reply from him. Said that the HGs were made on proprietary in house machinery from originals,  as were the barrel springs. Health issues preventing further work.

AFter hearing that, kinda felt selfish for asking about it.

Now we just need a woodworker who wants to invest in original HGs, machinery and copy them.


Jason60chev wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

Just sent an email to them, asking that very question.

I read  someplace else that East Taylor LLC was also (unless that is Mr. Schwartz?) stopping production. Guess the value of originals is going to go up. :'(

Dick - Both names are the same concern.

I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock').

The price of originals has been climbing for some time.

Schwartz/East Taylor-LLC had decent stuff to work with.

Wow, I just got one a couple of months ago, apparently just in the nick of time.  That is sad news.


butlersrangers wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:56pm:

....  I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock')....

I suspect so.  It took me 5 to 6 weeks to get the one I ordered and S&S was showing out of stock the entire time.  I believe one or two of their hand guards became available right at the same time I received my order.

butlersrangers wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:56pm:

Dick - Both names are the same concern. I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock'). The price of originals has been climbing for some time. Schwartz/East Taylor-LLC had decent stuff to work with.

Butlersrangers,
Yes that was my understanding, that East Taylor sold to S&S.
Vic

I expect the question comes down to how much are you willing to pay for a reproduction hand guard. They would not be cheap to make, especially for such limited demand.  I doubt you could have them made for what Mr. Schwartz charged. So would folks pay nearer what it costs for an original to have a reproduction made?

S&S didn't always use East Taylor.  I have one that I got from them that was as light as balsa, and drank stain about the same.  Come to think of it, I've not seen that thing for awhile.  Wonder what I did with it!

Wish I would have known about this unfortunate circumstance earlier!

I was just down in Georgia, about 3-4 hour drive from where they were produced.

Sure would have liked to have seen their operation.

Well, regardless, I wish the proprietor the best of health. 

I have never delt with him but Larry Price sell forend extensions on GunBroker for $55 and you can "buy it now" for that.
The quality looks good in the pictures. If anyone buys one please let us know the details. If a deal goes well I will put this in the parts sticky
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Ned,

Looks like he has sold a number of these. I need one so I might spring for one and check quality. Looks like the splice is behind the rear band. Getting the color to match is the hard job! Part of the fun of restoration.

Mr. Price's (Pryce's?) handguards may, or may not, be OK, but I'd be VERY careful in any transactions with him. He was involved in pimping a very suspect BoOF rifle a few years ago and was NOT at all helpful, or up front, in his correspondence. Personally, I wouldn't deal with him.

Numrich...Gun Parts Crops, carries a repair fore ends, too.....

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Whig wrote on Jan 7^th, 2019 at 12:23am:

Ned, Looks like he has sold a number of these. I need one so I might spring for one and check quality. Looks like the splice is behind the rear band. Getting the color to match is the hard job! Part of the fun of restoration.

Dick Hosmer wrote on Jan 7^th, 2019 at 5:16am:

Mr. Price's (Pryce's?) handguards may, or may not, be OK, but I'd be VERY careful in any transactions with him. He was involved in pimping a very suspect BoOF rifle a few years ago and was NOT at all helpful, or up front, in his correspondence. Personally, I wouldn't deal with him.

I knew some here had issues with him but could not remember who or why. That clears that up. So buyer beware. Hopefully with something like a forend extension things will work out.

Haven't bought yet. I've been duped once on Gun Broker and lost money years ago. Don't want it to happen again.

The Numrich offer might be better. Thanks for the link. I have an account with them and their reputation is great.

Happy shooting!

I think the N/GPC picture shows an excess of wood, probably to hold the piece while forming. It also appears that the front step is not fully machined, at least some lines that should be parallel do not appear to be so. As to the joint, I cannot believe that ANY reasonable person would put the splice anywhere but under the band. Now that I am REALLY retired I hope to have more time for such "projects".

Always easier to take some excess wood off than to put it back on.

I bought once from Price on Gunbroker. Be sure to communicate with him, be sure to read everything associated with his ad on GB and be sure you are clear on the delivery date before you buy.

The forestcok I got was basically fine I did not like that they come pre-drilled.

In the absence of East Taylor/Jack Schwartz, I will buy from Price again and hold my breath.