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Message started by TexTenn59 on Mar 5th, 2019 at 1:49am

Title: Starline Brass
Post by TexTenn59 on Mar 5th, 2019 at 1:49am
Anyone try/use Starline brass?  What are your thoughts on its performance?

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Kerz on Mar 5th, 2019 at 11:23am
I've not tried Starline 30/40 Krag but have used Starline for other rifle and pistol calibers.  Thumbs up for quality and would not have any concerns using their Krag brass.
That said, I wasn't aware they were making 30/40 Krag brass yet.
Vic

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by butlersrangers on Mar 5th, 2019 at 1:15pm
I am not sure my recall is correct, but, it may have been 'Starline' that made the .30-40 Brass for Graff & Sons.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by TexTenn59 on Mar 5th, 2019 at 4:03pm
I was thinking they made the Graf brass, not sure were I got that from.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by psteinmayer on Mar 5th, 2019 at 10:20pm
I too was unaware that Starline was making 30-40.  Interesting...

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Playapat on Mar 5th, 2019 at 11:54pm
I just checked Starline's website, and they don't list 30-40 as one of their calibers, so perhaps they do white label it for Graf's.

I've used their brass for several other calibers, and it seems very good.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Culpeper on Mar 6th, 2019 at 1:16am
Last I heard was that #%^%$$ Jamison in SD was making Graf's 30-40 brass.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Playapat on Mar 6th, 2019 at 4:32am
Culpeper, dare I ask for the back story on Jamison? I ask because I just bought some Captech brass, which I understand to be made by Jamison.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by butlersrangers on Mar 6th, 2019 at 6:16am
I misspoke regarding the maker of 'Graf' Brass.

When Graf & Sons began marketing .30-40 Brass, with the 'Graf' headstamp, it was suspected by individuals on several forums that the actual maker was Captech in S.D.

I suppose someone could call Graf & Sons and ask the origin of their Brass?

I am not aware of problems with any brand of .30-40 brass.

BTW - There seems to be a lot of gossip and misinformation on the internet. (I regret when I contribute to it).

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by TexTenn59 on Mar 6th, 2019 at 12:34pm
Gossip and partial truth?  Say it ain’t so!  Here I thought everything on the internet, including Snopes and Wikipedia, was factual and unbiased. 

What’s next, Bill Nye the Science Guy isn’t a scientist?

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Capt. Frank on Mar 6th, 2019 at 2:34pm
Bill Nye saying global warming is a myth.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by psteinmayer on Mar 6th, 2019 at 3:48pm
My assumption was that GRAF stamped brass was produced by PPU... mostly because they produce brass for other Graf & Sons loaded ammo, such as 7.7x58 mm Arisaka.  But that was just an assumption.

By the way, if Bill Nye wasn't a Scientist, then was Roy Hinckley really a Professor?

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Parashooter on Mar 6th, 2019 at 4:20pm
Seems Graf has several choices at present, some on sale   (You need to Login; -

Captech Brass 30-40 Krag New Overrun Unprimed Bag of 50
$42.99 SALE $28.99
You save 33%!
In Stock
Item #: BCCU3040K
$0.58 per round

Graf Brass 30-40 Krag Unprimed Bag of 50
$42.99 SALE $37.99
You save 12%!
In Stock
Item #: GRU3040K
$0.76 per round

Hornady Brass 30-40 Krag Unprimed Box of 50
$39.99
In Stock
Item #: HRN86627
$0.80 per round

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Playapat on Mar 6th, 2019 at 10:04pm
Even better, all the bags of Captech that I got had 51 cases in them  :D

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by butlersrangers on Mar 7th, 2019 at 3:28am
.30-40 Brass situation is a lot better today than it was two or three years ago.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Culpeper on Mar 8th, 2019 at 4:22am

Playapat wrote on Mar 6th, 2019 at 4:32am:
Culpeper, dare I ask for the back story on Jamison? I ask because I just bought some Captech brass, which I understand to be made by Jamison.


Marc jamison, et.al., in summer of 2011 advertised on his site that people could order custom brass with their own headstamps on the cases.  When I discovered his site I called him.  He quoted me a certain amount for 10,000 pieces.  I was rolling in dough at the time and had the money.  He also told me I would own the die set used to produce the brass.  Two months passed and I received no updates so I called SD.  I told on repeated follow ups that they were waiting for this or that.  Getting information was like pulling teeth.

A couple of days into October I called up and was told by Kathy (I think that was the name) the final item was there and the order would be done in a few weeks.  Then I called them on or about the 20th since that is a few weeks and found the phone was disconnected and the website was GONE.

I kicked my Google-fu to the Yoda level and found out this rotten piece of rat filth had been in some kind of legal problems even before I placed the order.

The business went into receivership and I did manage to get my money back but he kept two pieces of my original 1920s brass that was never returned.  My buddy said the courts made me "whole".  I told him that is pure crap.  Making me whole to me means complete the order as agreed.  ...And give me back my original brass pieces.

Towards the end of the receivership process the "new folks", who never were identified, sent an email stating they would honor the original deal. 
Go %$&&* yer selves.  Found out when the business was resurrected Jamison and the original cadre was still there running the show.

I won't do business with liars and deceivers and I certainly am not going to buy their products for the rest of my life.

continued...

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Culpeper on Mar 8th, 2019 at 4:24am
Jamison and the rest of that bunch can have strokes and drool into their laps for the next fifty years as far as I am concerned.

But ask me how I really feel about it.

And that is why to this day I advocate to anyone and everyone to go buy winchester or remington ammo, shoot it, and keep the brass.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Playapat on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:19am
Sorry if it brings up bad memories, but I appreciate you enlightening a noobie like me about the situation.

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by psteinmayer on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:15pm
Culpeper doesn't mince his words... although he DOES mince his garlic!!!

I can't remember who it was... Starline or another brass manufacturer, but back a few years ago I was contacting cartridge companies to inquire about producing Krag brass.  One of them told me "No way in hell would they ever produce 30-40 Krag brass... and basically (in so many words) told me to F.O.!  Such was the state of our beloved Krag sport until Graf & Sons and Hornady stepped up to the plate.  Since then, Remington is back in the game and I've heard rumblings of other companies interest too!

Title: Re: Starline Brass
Post by Playapat on Mar 10th, 2019 at 1:27am
I was just reading your old posts about this a few days ago. I’m glad we now live in an age of plenty! Thanks for stirring the pot and getting these companies interested again.

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