Butlersrangers, when I saw this thread I wondered what you had against Dutch people. Glad to see it is only something against an evil Dutch company and their American partner in crime.

Since we are on the subject of alcohol, is there any widely available authentic apple cider? Angry Orchard varies between apple juice with added alcohol to apple Koolaid  with alcohol. The closest I have come to what I think is authentic is Strongbow Artisan. It is a little cloudy with sediment in the bottom of the bottle that needs to be gently stirred up. Since I only drink a six pack a month during fall and winter I would like to get the best without wasting time and effort on something not so good.