Whig, go to Creedmore's website:   (You need to Login You'll find shooting gear there.  My coat, gloves, range box, etc. are all from Creedmore.  They always have a ton of stuff on Vender Row during the National Matches too!  Here's the cartridge case you asked about:    (You need to Login I personally don't care about the two outer loops.  I've seen some who put two in the outer and then only eight in the main area.  FWIW, they usually hold 20 in the main area regardless of the outer loops.  BTW, the box has a rearward flap of leather which fits into a pocket on the shooting coat.  My son just sticks that flap into his pants pocket.