Top Krag was in 4th place, if I'm reading right, a British fellow.  99-5x, 91, 92, total of 282-5x.  Wining 03 shooter had a 289-4x.  Friend Paul upped his score to a 252-1x, solidly in my usual mid-pack position, about what I shot a couple years ago.  See I told you'd get better over time!

Can you explain, for those of us not familiar with this match, what is shot at what distances to better understand these scores?

Thanks!

"Roosevelt Commemorative Match

"COURSE OF FIRE: The 200-yard As-Issued Military Rifle Course A will be used for the CMP Roosevelt Commemorative Match.
RULES: Competition Rules for CMP Games Rifle and Pistol Matches (See Rules 4.2.3 and 4.2.4).
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200 yards
SR target
5 sighting shots
30 shots for score
10 prone slow
10 prone rapid
10 standing slow

More specifically, from 2018 rulebook -

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Thanks parashooter!  41 of 172 were Krags, if I counted right.

Congrats to all who participated. I hope to meet my fellow Krag enthusiasts over the next 3 days.

Thanks for the shooting set up posts!

I'll have to check further into this, but noted an unlimited class on CMP's Competition Tracker in the Roosevelt.  That would open the door for sporters and allow me a scope on my 92/96!  Looks like Paul had a problem with standing in the Garand match, wound up with a lower score than what he shot with his Krag.  Hope things work out for him in the Vintage and Long Range.

Howdy!  Had a pretty good Perry this year!  Scores could have been better... but eh'  I had fun!  Missed bronze by three stinkin' points with the Krag though..  >:(

Yeah, I had problems with all of my matches this year.  I did have an ok Springfield Match though.  I'll talk about Long Range on that thread.

While looking over the results of the Vintage Rifle Match, I noted that a Krag came in 3rd, with scores of 100-4, 98-2, 92-1, for a total of 290-7x!  Good shooting by Matthew Zagorski of Exton, PA!  I see that he also shot the Roosevelt and scored a 274-5x!  I guess he was just getting warmed up and on target when shooting the Roosevelt!  Thanks to Matthew, America keeps the Mook Cup!

This years winner of the Mook Trophy is Matthew Zagorski of Exton, PA

We need to construct a true Mook trophy and award it at next years Roosevelt Match!  We can spread the word on the CMP forum.  I think it would further promote the use of Krags in the Roosevelt, and maybe get a few of the 03 shooters to reconsider their choice of rifle!  Or... maybe we can award it to the KCA member who shoots the highest score in the Roosevelt Match!  What do you all think?  I'm sure we could come up with something - maybe a small bronze copy of The Traveler on a pedestal.

Well, you're good at building cakes, trophies are sorta like them, stacking things up to make something presentable.  KCA member, technically, I'm not a member.  I just blab here.  Since Krags can also be used in the Vintage Match, perhaps we should include that, and specify US Krag, as someone might be using a Norwegian or Danish in the Vintage.  Or, would any Krag be ok?  I don't know what the CMP would think.  Most trophies are kept by them, with plaques for each year's winner added.

I think, and I am unanimous, it should be a US Krag award just because this is America.  Sure you can use a foreign Krag in the Vintage match but how would you tell after the fact?  The list for the Roosevelt (spit) match has two options, Krag or 1903.  Vintage on the other hand, as of today, does not show the type of rifle used by the shooters in the match.  I  looked in the National Vintage Military Rifle Match results.

By the way, madsenshooter, you blab here, you're a member here.   :D

I'm waiting on someone to get their Lee Navy together for the Roosevelt.  Things change over time on competition tracker, top Krag in the Roosevelt is now down to 9th, and I no longer see the Brit.  Don't know what the story is there. Maybe he was shooting a .303.  The unlimited class I previously noted is also gone.  Maybe those were A3s along for the fun.  Oddly the score reported above for high Krag in the Vintage is also gone.  OH, shoot I was looking at the wrong year!

My vote would be for US Krags only, and Roosevelt Match results only too.  Yes, some shooters use them in the Vintage, but in the Roosevelt, we're just competing against other Krags and 03s... and since the 03s have won the match each year, we need something for the top Krag shooter in that match.  As I said before, we could make it for all Krag shooters, or keep it here on the KCA and limit it to KCA members.  I'm good either way.  We couldn't make it an official CMP trophy though.  However, we could change the Krag dinner to the night of the match instead of the night before... and award it then!  I have no problems trying to create the trophy.  I'd just need to find a statue of The Traveler, about 12 inches tall!

Without the higher score in the Vintage, we'd be sending the trophy to Langley, England.  Not a big deal if it isn't something meant to be perpetual.  Disregard my babble above, wrong year!  Got it now.  I see what you mean Culpepper, they were showing the rifle used on the Vintage results, now they're all gone.

Perhaps the KCA could sponsor/donate an official CMP trophy for top Krag score in the Roosevelt. Suggest contacting after things settle down there to discuss the possibilities.

Christie Sewell
Programs Chief
Civilian Marksmanship Program
Po Box 576
Port Clinton, OH 43452
Phone (419) 635-2141
e-mail csewell@thecmp.org

Alrighty.  So the criteria for the Mook Trophy will be:

High Krag shooter in the Roosevelt (spit) Match.  Which guarantees the US rifle or carbine will be in military dress.

Interest items:

We need to decide what the award will look like and of course how many to be made and how much it will cost?

Should there be a run of X awards to satisfy X years of winners?

How would it be administered?  This is a logistics issue.  Many of us are not spring chickens and I am certain most of us would not want this to be one time award dreamed up by the Good Idea Fairy

Or...

It could be as simple as a well designed certificate on heavy weight paper or light card stock (all acid free materials) that has the image of the Hiker.  Either by Neuman or Ruggles.

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Here is a very rough idea.

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That's an excellent idea!!!  I could contact Christie, and would be happy to do so.  If they are receptive to it, it could be awarded at the Awards Ceremony.  There are other awards that are sponsored, so it's not out of the question.  Even if it's a certificate as Culpeper suggests, it would still represent Krags... and ultimately promote Krags in the match!

When you contact the CMP try and get a way to contact the Englander so we can ascertain the type of Krag he was shooting.  I am guessing there are not too many US Krags in England and that there is a bit higher chance of a Danish or Norwegian being available to him.