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General >> Chit-Chat (for poking fun and off topic subjects) >> All I want for Christmas is ..... http://www.kragcollectorsassociation.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1573318243 Message started by butlersrangers on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 4:50pm

Title: All I want for Christmas is .....
Post by butlersrangers on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 4:50pm

A Hotchkiss Mountain Gun!

International Military Antiques (IMA) has one available today, for $31,995.00, with Free Shipping, in case anyone wants to give me a nice surprise!

They have some mighty nice detailed pictures on their site.

Although, the video of a guy firing a blank is pretty lame ...with a cough and a wheeze and a thank you please ...

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Post by butlersrangers on Nov 9^th, 2019 at 5:00pm

It looks to be a 'Parts Gun' with a 'Hotchkiss of Paris' Barrel and a U.S. 'Bridgeport' made carriage, but, I like it anyways and would be glad to have it in my collection!

It is worth visiting the IMA site to look at the detailed photos. Their graphics would make the basis of a great pamphlet or manual on the Hotchkiss Mountain Gun.

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Post by Knute1 on Nov 11^th, 2019 at 2:09am

O.K. So I am going to put my intelligence on the line and say something that may be obvious. But the horse displaying the cannon is fake...right? I mean...like the tail...it just doesn't look right and the horse seems to be a able to "strike a pose" and hold it. And it looks like some loose grass strewn about its feet to possibly hide some support for the whole giddy-up.

Check out this Rock Island Arsenal horse "mannequin". You will have to scroll down some.

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Title: Re: All I want for Christmas is .....
Post by butlersrangers on Nov 11^th, 2019 at 3:27am

'Knute' - You are observant and correct.

The photo of two "horses", (more likely mules), I take to be of statues.
The artillery carriage, wheels, barrel, and ammo chests may also be part of the 'sculpture'.

I would like to know more about the source, location, and 'back story' on the photo of the two equine display pieces.
I don't believe they are related to the Rock Island Arsenal Horse Mannequin. ("Horse Mannequin", now there's a contradiction in terms).

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Post by Knute1 on Nov 11^th, 2019 at 3:39am

The ears have it......I believe they are mules now looking at it. I also believe it is the same sculpted mule, but dressed differently for the two photo ops to display how the gun and carriage was carried. Maybe a promo of sorts.

I agree that these (this) mannequin is not the same type as that shown at Rock Island Arsenal. The one at the arsenal is likely made of wire and plaster covered with a real horse hide. The sculpture in your picture is likely made of one homogenous material as the tail does not appear to be real hair. The base may be of the same type as show at R.I.A.