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General >> Chit-Chat (for poking fun and off topic subjects) >> Hadji Has a Krag http://www.kragcollectorsassociation.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1576460894 Message started by Knute1 on Dec 16^th, 2019 at 1:48am

Title: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Knute1 on Dec 16^th, 2019 at 1:48am

Hadji Abdullah from Jolo, Philippines was given a Krag rifle from President Taft. I haven't read much about him yet, but he is very photogenic.

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Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Magilla26 on Dec 16^th, 2019 at 7:25pm

Great Photo! I would like to get a pair of those pants.

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Dec 16^th, 2019 at 9:10pm

That would be a distinctive look for KCA Members shooting at Camp Perry - Vintage Matches!

Mattress Ticking cloth, for trousers, is cheap at "Joanne's Fabric".

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by FredC on Dec 17^th, 2019 at 8:18pm

Must have been a rough time of unrest. Besides the Krag and Krag ammo, he has a heavy revolver with lots of ammo and a long sword or machete!
Maybe he was going on a bear hunt?

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 12:18am

Worse, 'Friendly' Moro War-Lord!

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by FredC on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 2:51pm

I can not see it, but I wonder if he has the bayonet and I am just missing it?

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Whig on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 3:38pm

Looks like he has a Moro sword in a scabbard which has a distinctive hilt that you can see above his belt.

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Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 7:39pm

That's some fine metal work!

'Hadji', himself, is probably all of 85 pounds of 'spring steel'.

You would not want him 'fired up' on Hemp and pissed-off at you!

Here's a photo of some arms captured from the Moros and a Moro member of the Philippine Constabulary.

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Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by psteinmayer on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 10:53pm

butlersrangers wrote on Dec 16^th, 2019 at 9:10pm:

That would be a distinctive look for KCA Members shooting at Camp Perry - Vintage Matches!

Mattress Ticking cloth, for trousers, is cheap at "Joanne's Fabric".

NO WAY am I dressing like this for Perry...

Unless...

A lot of others join me in shooting AND wearing the required (ridiculous) stripped trousers too!
:D

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Dec 18^th, 2019 at 11:10pm

Paul, You'd look good in a turban or fez!

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by waterman on Dec 20^th, 2019 at 2:29am

And barefoot!

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by psteinmayer on Dec 21^st, 2019 at 9:47pm

Hmmmm Barefooted and turbin headed... Boy oh boy would I be a sight! LOL

Now a fez... THAT's an idea! Steely Dan has a song called The Fez - "Don't never want to do it without the fez on..." Of course, I think Donald Fagen and Walter Becker were referring to something else - a latex hat for a different part of the body! LOL

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 12:13am

Great Paul, now I feel dirty about Camp Perry.

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by psteinmayer on Dec 24^th, 2019 at 10:04pm

:D ;D

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Local Boy on Dec 25^th, 2019 at 5:42am

Hi Paul,

Along with the fez...I think the Kris sword would be necessary to truly complete the ensemble...here's a beauty that you could own for the right price:

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My understanding is that the more waves, up the length of the sword, indicate the owners standing in the pecking order food chain...and this one has waves going all the way to the top!

Hey, as an after thought, maybe you can call your Krag competition rifle "Steely Dan" and have the name engraved on the receiver or carved in the stock. Sure would make you stand out from the rest...or maybe they wouldn't want to be around a guy with a rifle named "Steely Dan" :-/

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by psteinmayer on Dec 25^th, 2019 at 5:40pm

LOL.… I think naming a rifle after "Steely Dan" would be as acceptable as wearing a "Fez" of the kind Steely Dan was referring to on my head (after all, the band was named after the revolutionary steam powered dildo mentioned in writer William S. Burroughs novel Naked Lunch)! :D

The sword would be awesome though... wish I had the money. Of course, if I had that much money, I'd have a few more Krags! ;)

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Knute1 on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 1:52am

Warriors and Constabulary rifles with a couple prisoners.

KragConstabulary_A.jpg ( 378 KB | 3 Downloads )

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 3:29am

It would be fun to have an hour to examine the 7 or 8 Constabulary Rifles in this photo and make some notes!
(The Moro attired 'scout' appears to have a Krag on his shoulder).

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by Knute1 on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 5:09am

By golly, I think you're right. The scout appears to have the butt end of Krag facing the camera on his right shoulder. You can see a shadow where the toe curls in, otherwise, it shows up in the photo as "white". (The scout is standing to the right of the two captors with dark shirts, in case anybody is wondering.)

Title: Re: Hadji Has a Krag
Post by butlersrangers on Jan 4^th, 2020 at 4:36pm

BTW - The two prisoners are restrained with leg-shackles.

The armed man, in full-length native garb, must be a head-man, spy, or scout.

I wonder if the man on the left, sort of 'peeking in', is an officer?
His face appears European and his Mill's web gear seems to have 'pockets'.
He is wearing his Fez 'quite jaunty'. I wish we could see his Feet & Legs; that would tell all!

Neat photo! I haven't seen it before. Thanks for posting, Knute.