These signs below were times when we had real quarantines in this country. You quarantine sick people.

You never saw a sign that said:

"Quarantine: Caution-Healthy People Inside!"

That's why this is a political action, not a health action.

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I don’t see how you can say that. If you only quarantined people with obvious covid19 symptoms everyone would become exposed eventually and you would have 1918 all over again only infinitely worse. There were less than 2 billion [corrected] people worldwide then, now there’s almost 8 billion [corrected]. Quarantining everyone, exposed but not symptomatic, symptomatic and the truly unexposed is the only way I can see to have the largest potential number of survivors. The only political aspect is that in the good ol USA it is an election year. And the economic destruction covid19 is causing will probably have an impact.
[Thanks guys, all those ‘naughts confused me.]

I think those human population numbers should be Billions, unless you are counting Democrat Ballots!

(If ballots, then I suppose Trillions will show up, in some 'Blue' districts).  ::)

He's counting the dead- many of who still vote democrat in elections...

This is a flu virus. Most flu viruses are different in certain ways like this one. Death numbers are being inflated. I'm a physician and have been "instructed" by the Ohio Medical Board to add Covid-19 to any death certificate whether or not there was any evidence to show that the person actually died of Covid-19. The Centers for Disease Control is saying clearly that they will interpret these death certificates to show that anyone who died WITH Covid-19 will be considered to have died FROM Covid-19. If I falsified a death certificate for any reason, I would lose my license. But, the govt can do it and set policy with the falsified statistics and hospitals can bill higher amounts for people who have been diagnosed with this Hoax Flu.

The physicians doing this, as instructed all around the country, are complicit in a big scandal/hoax for political and monetary reasons.

Interestingly enough, fewer deaths from other normal causes are being recorded now.

You won't see this on CNN or MSNBC, though. Maybe history will reveal the truth but I'm not even sure about that.

Good thing God is still in ultimate control!

Until his death, my father always voted Republican.

Whig, That’s a good point that victims who die WITH covid19 will be assumed to have died FROM covid19. But to me you’re splitting hairs. The deadly pneumonia that developed was because the patient had the flu, if he hadn’t caught the flu he wouldn’t have developed the pneumonia. Complications brought on by covid19 would be my layman’s explanation. Which makes sense to me. It’s not like the victim was fatally struck by a car on the way to the hospital to get admitted because he was coughing up blood and had a high fever. So did he die from covid19 or Uber. He wouldn’t have been at that spot in the crosswalk if he hadn’t gotten sick, he would have been safe at work. Still don’t see any hoax here, sorry.

My family voted Democrat in protest.

They lived in a town that was run by a 'Paternalistic' Copper Mining Company.

The Mining Company determined and provided: employment, promotions, wages, housing, utilities, education, opportunity for your children and medical care.

If you were critical of or spoke out against the Company, you were 'screwed'.

The 'Company' controlled most things in local government, including elections, via the Republican officials. The 'ballots' were not secret.

p.s. - All this being said, my 'forefathers' (and mothers) would not have supported the present Democrat Party!

Well, this is more than "splitting hairs". When statistics are being incorrectly (re: fraudulently) created, collected, interpreted, whatever, for any kind of gain, it is wrong and dangerous. The "gain" we are seeing is the use of these numbers to re-direct medical supplies, create and institute vastly changing federal monetary policies, affect people's opinions of those in charge and actions are being taken in dealing with the crisis and creating innumerable hardship for small businesses, students and anyone or everyone in the private sector, it is a debacle that is far-reaching and not just semantics or hair splitting.

I have seen this thing from the beginning affect everything we normally do in this country and it just isn't right.

But, many people who are not affected and have pensions, tax-payer paid salaries, welfare, disability, etc., are not worried and don't feel the need to believe anything is that wrong. So be it. But, we are not being given truthful information and this is a factual statement.

At least we still have our Krags to play with!

Here in Illinois our governor fred flintstone gives his daily yabba dabba flu report. He never mentions recovered cases, just new, total, and fatalities. Not one reporter has asked how many have recovered. Control the mind and the asshole will follow.

At least we still have our Krags to play with![/quote]

And don’t forget our ‘03 Springfields!

Does anyone remember the daily death reports being given on CNN and MSNBC for the Swine Flu H1Ni pandemic from 10 years ago?

Of course not. That's when Obama was president.

That flu virus attacked not only the elderly but pregnant women also. People under age 65 accounted for 80% of the cases of H1N1 flu. But ONLY 12,500 died in the US from that illness but the numbers were more accurately reported.

How many people have actually died FROM COVID-19 in the US now? We really don't know.

More cases are in the US than any other country but that's because we are testing more people than any other country and actually releasing numbers. Can we trust the numbers Communist China has released?

No.

I think I'll go blow my nose and then reload some .30-40 Krag ammo. That's a great thing to do under quarantine!

obviously we cna't decide in this right situation must wait few months ....every thing will be fine by god grace ....

My father always voted republican, until he died.

Just heard of another after effect of C19. Some are having micro vascular clotting. All the small capillaries in an organ or extremity form micro clots leading to amputation or loss of an organ. This thing has got several ways to kill you.
Some think the air born transmission is similar to measles entering a room 1/2 to 1 hour after an infected person left can get you. One funny thing is as of March 15 not one single case of surface transmission has been documented. All this cleaning and sanitizing may keep the flu or some other diseases at bay but the exposure to all that chlorine gas may irritate the lungs and make you more susceptible to C19. This is Fred's conjecture not supported by any research.

I saw the other day where an unfortunately guy had his leg amputated due to this crap. Weird. Also saw a segment about some government research lab in wuhan china just blocks from the live market that was experimenting with bat viruses. Not surprisingly all their public internet info has been deleted. People get complacent and then they get careless everywhere. I can’t imagine it was intentional. My motto has always been, don’t attribute to maliciousness what can easily be explained by stupidity.

Baltimoreed wrote on Apr 21^st, 2020 at 1:37pm:

My motto has always been, don’t attribute to maliciousness what can easily be explained by stupidity.

Words to remember!

This Covid19 is very closely related to SARS which China fought a few years ago. Too bad they are someone else did not follow through with an antiviral/vaccine that would have been effective for SARS. Covid 19 is so closely related that the vaccine could have been effective. Out  of side out of mind. No one saw that it or a related virus could come back. I guess spending millions on an antiviral that disappeared and you hope does not come back looks foolish.

I really hope that situation in the world will change for the best really soon.

Hate to be a Debbie Downer but imo the world is in decline. Things will only get worse. With a never ending increase of human beings squabbling over the decreasing finite resources there’s no other way for it to go. Without voluntary zero population growth and a global pandemic that actually thins the herd substantially the quality of life in the real world [our USA, Europe etc] will decline to the level of the third world countries eventually. And I haven’t even mentioned global warming or the inability of nations to even try to get along. The Lord will not return to a world that is living in peace and harmony with plenty for everyone. He will return to a world so awful that He can’t stand it anymore. We won’t see it as it’s still in the future but it’s coming. And have a good day, hug your family, hold them close and spend some quality time with your rifle.

After reading that, I looked out the window and think I just saw part of the sky fall.

Chicken littles of the world unite!

No, those are just frogs falling out of the sky.

Actually, a lot of people are more civil and probably reassessing aspects of their lives, while this experience is going on.

I suspect a lot of children will treasure this time of increased family contact and interaction.

Most Americans will pragmatically 'break rules' and not be Sheep or Lemmings.
They will make things work and hopefully remember obstructionist actions of some politicians in November voting.

Meanwhile, I need to find more containers to store gasoline in!

We do not need zero population growth.  That is a western idea.  Other terms for it is cultural suicide.  The Mohammadans espouse large families and the idea of supplanting local populations by overwhelming numbers.    The Chinese are the same way.

What is really needed is pestilence and global warfare to thin the herd just like any other animal species.

Just sayin'.

But how much nicer would this planet be if there were half of us living on it. Just the sheltering in place for the last month or two has improved the quality of the air and water everywhere. When my wife and I drove to Cody/Yellowstone I couldn’t get over how much bluer the sky is and fresher the air is there compared to the east coast. We tried global warfare in the 1940s and what did it get us?

We may have tried it but it was not Old Testament.  That is when God told the Hebrews to go into a certain area and slay every thing on two or four legs and move on in and have a good time.

Back my Titan days we were always dreaming of carpet bombing two particular countries with nukes, three if you count Iran in '79.  Would sure beat iron bombs to get the job done.  Ah those were the days.

Oh that's right the Old testament has been tried.  It's been done in the last couple hundred years.  The Turks against the Armenians.  The Russians against the cossacks or peasants.  The Chinese Communists against there own.   The Genocides of Africa.  Pol Pot.   the Mohammedans against the Jews, Christians, Animists and anybody else who were not A RABs for the last 1600 years. Lest we forget the National Socialists and their ilk.   North Korea snce 1950.

And while inadvertant but just as devastating, the introduction of Eastern Hemiphere diseases to the Western Hemisphere in the Age of Discovery.

Oh but we are far better than our animal ancestors.  We are sophisticated.


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...We have Krags!

Anyone remember the 1971 film "The Omega Man" starring Charlton Heston? I saw it at the theater when it first came out and a few times since. It's about a doctor that survives a global pandemic caused by biological warfare agents....sound familiar?

Whig.....the 21st century Omega Man!


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Omega Man was the movie version of "I Am Legend", a book I read back in 1965.

I believe the movie developed the story-line and added to the plot & characters, considerably.

It kind of went from a 'Last Man Alive' virus plague/vampire story to a biological weapons/hi-tech zombie apocalypse scenario. - IIRC

(Will Smith was in a more recent movie, "I Am  Legend", which I have not seen).

I liked the book, back when I was in High School.

One of the movies that scared the crap out of me when I was a little kid was The Andromeda Strain. That was about a deadly virus brought back to earth from a satellite or something. It's almost nothing now, in comparison to so many other scary movies but I was a little kid and it left me shaking at night!

The original (black & white) "Human Body Snatchers" and "Night of the Living Dead", now those were scary movies!

Watch out for that truck load of ‘pods’ coming to a neighborhood near you.

"Tide Pods"?

They’re bigger than that and when you fall asleep they absorb you and then become you. Yuk. Spoiler alert.. old ‘50s sf movie with anti commie overtones. Better dead than red but socialism is ok.

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Omega Man was great...  but I prefer Soylent Green!  Now, when are they going to start feeding us those weird looking Soylent crackers?  BTW, in Soylent Green, food and supplies are hoarded.  Sound familiar?

Back to Basics - Food, Survival, and ...

Have you ever seen "A Boy and His Dog" (1975 Sci-Fi pic) staring young Don Johnson and Jason Robards. Set in a post-apocalyptic 2024 world. It's different!

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A great sci-fi post apocalyptic end of the world dog and his boy film. The dog is smarter than Johnson and telepathic. Loved it.

I think we should all watch "My Side of the Mountain"... and then we should all head to the hills and live like Thoreau!

I loved that book when I was a kid.

Always loved the outdoors and camping.

psteinmayer wrote on Apr 25^th, 2020 at 9:44pm:

I think we should all watch "My Side of the Mountain"... and then we should all head to the hills and live like Thoreau!

I was dumbfounded to read, in "Walden Pond" him saying something about "going over to friend Hosmers". Not terribly strange since the area is spot on, but interesting.

"OK" to eat fat woodchucks, but, no Bats!