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Scabbard repairs?
Oct 16th, 2010 at 12:40am
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Does anyone know of a way to fix dented bayonet scabbards?
So many are dented.  Just seems there should be a way?
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Re: Scabbard repairs?
Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 2:46am
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I'd like to know, too!

I've had some daydreams about a three-part wedging apparatus, which would have to be fed in one piece at a time, then aligned before hammering the center piece in.

From a collector's standpoint, you want to be able to fix (or reduce) the dent(s) WITHOUT (a) popping the brazed seam, or (b) removing the throat-piece and rivet. The scabbard will need to be held in some sort of "jacket" (perhaps hollowed-out blocks of wood?) giving a lot of overall support.

I've not yet made up any metal pieces to try, and have no timetable to do so.

Any and all good ideas welcome!!!
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 4:31am
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Christian Sharps showed us how.  Same way he made cartridges.

There should be a way, it'd require a form and seal, to do it using hydraulic pressure.
  
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Re: Scabbard repairs?
Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 1:45pm
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Mr. Hosmer,
That's the way I've been thinking also.  But no real ideas on how to do it.
The rivet removal / replacement seems the biggest hangup.
Keep thinking.
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Re: Scabbard repairs?
Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 1:47pm
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While I'm sure hydraulic COULD be made to work, and might well be the way to go were one to found the Acme Scabbard Repair Works (not to be confused with OALW) but, I think we are looking for something a bit more "primitive" - I know I am!   Smiley

I have only one scabbard to do - unfortunately it's an 1894 "keystone", so I need to be VERY careful with it, especially as regards the throat area.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 3:45pm
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Mook claimed to have an original spandrel.  Spandrel?  I think that is what it's called.  A core around which one beats something into submission.

I have a few with dents.  One of these days I should see if i can snag a really bad one to see what would be required to disassemble and reassemble it.  One would have to be really bored but a brass sand cast spandrel would be handy.

I have one of those real early M-1910 "spun" canteens with some dents.  Same problem really outside of the neck being smaller.  Hydraulic pressure would be the way to go with that.  Without disassembling a Krag scabbard hydraulic pressure would also be the way to go.  Assuming one could make such a thing. 

ACME Scabbard Repair Works.  A subsidiary of Road Runner Industries no doubt. 

I'll troll eBay for a really bad scabbard and take a poke at one missing the handle.  Won't hurt to sacrifice such a thing.  Maybe it'll be instructive on how to attach those also.
  
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Re: Scabbard repairs?
Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 4:12pm
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RRI? But of course.

I've also considered a "t" shaped thingamabob which could be inserted and then twisted. Problem there is whether the (obviously small) shaft would deform under torque before the dent came out. The dent, by forming a triangular cross section, has, to some extent "stiffened" itself. The brazed joint might be the weak link. Suitable clamping would certainly need to be applied. Possibly a series of ever larger-headed "T" tools could be employed?

The arsenal guys, having zero concern about reapplying a throatpiece, would surely have used the MANDREL method.

"Spandrel" is an architectural term relating to exterior structural glass, or opaque panels such as used in high-rise office buildings.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 6:24pm
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Isn't Mandrel the singer?  Barbara?

Ok, so "hollow wall anchor" is the concept then.  One drills a hole in the wall and taps it in.  Then a screw in screwed in which spreads the 'wings' of the anchor behind the sheetrock.

Two "shanks" connected at the end.  With a spreader screw in the center.  Slide it inside and then screw the screw in which widens the shanks.  Unscrew to reverse the shanks to a width where they can be removed.

Something along those lines.  Threaded spread.  The ACME threaded spread shank.
  
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Re: Scabbard repairs?
Reply #8 - Oct 16th, 2010 at 10:57pm
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The theory makes sense, but I doubt you'd be able to get the part(s) through the blade opening.

I'd guess the "T" piece(s) would require the least work to find out whether they WOULD work. The ideal would be an 8" long hex-head bolt (3/16"?) with about a half-inch of thread. File/grind opposing curved surfaces on the head - stick it in - thread on a couple of nuts and twist away. Make sure the curves are oriented so that the nuts jam when twisted, of course.  Smiley
  
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