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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2011 at 2:10pm
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I also am using an old manual from lyman (1969) i think and a old sierra from (1971) witch says the rifle used in testing was a krag.  I was just looking to see if any of you veterans were using the same recipe and how will it worked for you and what kind of fps you were getting.  I want to stay safe with this old rifle and still have a good quick kill on a deer. The more i handle this old rifles the more i sell my newer ones to buy more old rifles, it is amazing how our great country was being defended by these old things and i am very proud to have 2 of them to use and shoot. Thank you everyone for your input on this it it much appreciated. butlersrangers wrote on Jun 17th, 2011 at 7:30pm:
Dear mi-fordson:  This thread started getting scary when .308 Winchester Data began appearing.  Your query was about .30-40 cast bullet loads and increasing velocity for Deer Hunting.
  My old 1967 Lyman Manual gave data for Cast Bullet #311290 with Gas Check (#2 Alloy) and 2400 powder:  starting load 17 grains = vel. 1450 f.p.s. and  Maximum Load 22 grains = vel. 1725 f.p.s.
  Caution Caution - This is old data.  (There are also other powders that achieve higher velocities with lower pressure).  Always check current data and multiple sources.  I have not loaded or used cast bullet loads in my Krags.  But the Krag is famous as a fine cast bullet shooter.  (It is very important to know the actual bore diameter of your Krag's barrel).
  There is a Forum called "Cast Boolits".  If you have not checked it out, there is a wealth of information there.  Please always cross check loading data with multiple reliable sources.  Enjoy your Krag and know its limits.

  
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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #16 - Jun 20th, 2011 at 8:54pm
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mi-fordson:  you never indicated what charge weights of IM-4759 and #2400 you were using to get the velocities reported.  I'm also curious to know the alloy and lube you used and if there were any problems with leading?
  
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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #17 - Jun 20th, 2011 at 10:19pm
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2400 15 gr, 4759 16 gr LBT lube 20:1 alloy.  So far everything is good have not shot any more sense the first post on this thread, i have not had a chance to load up any more yet. As far as accuracy i was too busy trying to keep from shooting the chronograph Grin i will work on that once i get a little faster with the round i will hunt with.


Nickbutlersrangers wrote on Jun 20th, 2011 at 8:54pm:
mi-fordson:  you never indicated what charge weights of IM-4759 and #2400 you were using to get the velocities reported.  I'm also curious to know the alloy and lube you used and if there were any problems with leading?

  
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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #18 - Jun 21st, 2011 at 3:27am
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I chronographed my Krag over the weekend. The barrel was replaced with a 1903 Springfield rifle many years before I purchased it and has a length of about 24". The Remington cartridges came out a little over 2200fps. The recipe I tried with 180 grain round nose yielded near identical stats. Printed material showed approximately 2400fps with the same barrel length. I'm going to leave it at that.
  
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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #19 - Jun 21st, 2011 at 4:59pm
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Didn't the original U.S. Krag fire a 220 grain, round nosed slug at about 1,975 fps?
  
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Re: chronograph my krag
Reply #20 - Jun 23rd, 2011 at 10:15pm
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Load Data Error (and lesson learned).  I recently included some 1967 Lyman Manual Data in a response to mi-fordson.  When I turned the Manual page to get to the Bullet he is using, two pages turned.  The table I was actually copying was for .30-06!
  The correct Data for #2400 and cast bullet #311290 is:
starting load ---  16.0 grains #2400 = 1415 f.p.s.
maximum load -- 21.0 grains #2400 = 1716 f.p.s.
  I don't think I will attempt to transcribe any more data.  "Go to reliable sources and check things twice or thrice.  Begin with starting loads and always look for signs of excessive pressure".
  
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