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Klawbohr KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1 Joined: Jul 11^th, 2012	Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Jul 11^th, 2012 at 5:05pm	Print Post
	I was given 2 boxes of ammo from a friend who inherited them from his grandfather. Any help indentifying and perhaps value? Cartridges are marked: FNM7.6258 Thanks in advance Klawbohr


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Reply #1 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 12:46am	Print Post
	FNM is a headstamp used by 2 different ammunition producers; Fabrica National de Municiones in Mexico and Fabrica Nacional de Municoes e Armas Legiras, Moscavode, Portugal. My guess is that the cartridges cases are military .30-06 ammunition made in Mexico in 1958. What the loads might be is anybody's guess. The cartridge cases might be 7.62 NATO, but 1958 is pretty early for that.


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Red October KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2 Location: Tidewater, VA Joined: Jun 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Reply #2 - Jul 12^th, 2012 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	Any chance it could be 7.62 CETME? (Which would be dimensionally more like .308 / 7.62x51 NATO.) Or, does it look more like .30-06?


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OR Hunter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 15 Joined: Oct 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Reply #3 - Jul 13^th, 2012 at 4:38am	Print Post
	A picture would help. Especially if it's of the cartridge, not the box. Coincidentally, 7.62x58R would be the proper metric designation for the 30-40 Krag. Just like 7.62x63 is metric for the 30-06. Are the cartridges rimmed?


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Reply #4 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 1:32am	Print Post
	I was pretty sure myself that 30-06 was 7.62x63 also... 7.7 Jap is actually 7.7x58. Could this be a cartridge that was chambered to feed in a Type 99? The case dimensions for 7.7x58 and US M2 Ball (30-06 or 7.62x63) are very similar... and before Norma started mass production of 7.7 jap ammo, most Arisaka shooters made cases by trimming and re-sizing 30-06 cases. Also, .30 caliber jacketed bullets are typically .308 diameter, while 7.7 (and brittish .303) bullets are .312 diameter, so technically, a .30 caliber bullet could be fired in a Type 99 Arisaka if the case dimensions were correct. Food for thought????


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Ammo Question 7.62 X 58 Reply #5 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 1:58am	Print Post
	The Mexican Army adopted the .30-06 as standard after WW2, after they retired their 7x57 rifles & MGs. Their M1954 (Mexican) Mausers were .30-06. And I have quite a bit of FNM .30-06 brass. Most of it is headstamped "FNM" and a 2-digit year, just like the US military stuff, and uses regular Boxer primers. I think the "58" is just the year of manufacture.


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