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More Krag Accessories & approximate prices
Jul 13th, 2012 at 4:48pm
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When 'foraging' at Gun Shows, Shops, Flea Markets, etc., keep an eye open for these items.  The 1897 Krag Screwdriver and the 1901 Carbine Front Sight Cover.  The Screwdriver sells for around $85.  The Carbine Sight Cover seems to go for $85 to $125.
  
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Reply #1 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:32pm
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Original Krag 3 piece cleaning rods sell for $30 to $60.  Original brass muzzle cover/front sight protectors seem to sell for around $65.  The nickel-plated butt-trap oil bottles go for $15 to $25.  (Caution - the 3-piece rods and brass muzzle covers are reproduced).
  
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Reply #2 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 5:52pm
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Joe DeChristopher sells the rods, a complete original set, for $30.  He has enough to satisfy an order of a pretty large magnitude.  The oilers, and he'll sell by variation, are $15 from him.

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He's good people and very knowledgeable on Krags.

Over the last few years I've taken about 30 of the 1897 screwdrivers and $25 is about what you'll pay if you keep looking.
  
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Reply #3 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 6:22pm
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5MadFarmers:  Thanks for the link to Joe DeChristopher.  I wasn't sure they were still in business.  Do you have a link for W. Stokes Kirk (or a time-machine)?  I like his prices!
  
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Reply #4 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 6:24pm
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Muzzle/sight covers and swivels
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 6:26pm
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Nickel-plated oilers
  
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Reply #6 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 8:46pm
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But back then, a skilled machinist probably made about 50 cents an hour for a 10-hour day.
  
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Reply #7 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 8:50pm
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I heard a story once that Joe is connected, I think by marriage to the Stokes-Kirk family. And as such acquired all remaining inventory. Totally unconfirmed at this point, but good Krag gossip to kick around!!
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 13th, 2012 at 11:22pm
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Joe is a retired cop.  In the 1960s he bought up the existing Kirk inventory.  I'd have to search the wayback machine but he elaborated in some detail a few years ago after I asked him.

Machinists made from $2 to $3 per day.  Machinist helpers made from $1.25 to $1.75 per day.  Hiram Shrunk, foreman of the machinists at the onset of the Krag era, took home $4.5 per day while Drayton, the Master Machinist, drew $6 per day.

For comparison purposes D.C. Leonard (DCL on RIA leather gear of that era) was paid $2.50 per day.

Lesser paid positions were paid piecework.
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:05am
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Over the last few years I've taken about 30 of the 1897 screwdrivers and $25 is about what you'll pay if you keep looking.


And sometimes less.

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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 12:30am
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5MadFarmers:  That's a nicely preserved Krag tool at a bargain basement price.  Want to double your money?  In all honesty, they are not at all common and $85.00 is a fair dealer price for a good specimen.  It sure pays to hunt and be patient!
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:26am
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"Dealer price."  I think that's the point.  Dealers tend to hype stuff. "Rare" and "scarce" are completely abused.  1897 screwdriver?  Bid $27 on eBay.  Why $27?  Because my max bid is $26.  It's not as if I don't take them at that or less as you've just seen.  Often the $10 bid takes the item.

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1897.  Not rare.

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First series for '03s.  Not rare.

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Krag manuals.  Not rare.  Scarcer than tools but not rare.  Dealers simply hype the stuff.  Took one of those about a week ago for $15.  That's pretty typical.

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1898 trapdoor manual.  Rare!  Only $155!

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Paid $10 or $15 for most.  Mind you those are strictly the (most common) 1898 printing.  The other four printings are harder to find.  Those are very common.

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Only the third copy I've seen!  A bargain at $195!

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My max bid is $26.  I've taken a fair number at $10.

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The 1917 edition.  The most common.  A steal at $95!  I have over 20 of that edition.  Lost one last week at $17 as I won't go over $16 on that edition.

Dealer prices.  No thanks.  It's all hype.
  
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Re: More Krag Accessories & approximate prices
Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 4:04pm
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MadFarmers:  Wow!  That's quite the hoard of Krag and Springfield tools & manuals.  Nice pictures, advice and encouragement.  Thanks for sharing.  Let us know when you are holding a Garage Sale.
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 27th, 2012 at 12:31am
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When he does hold that sale, I'll drive!!!
  
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Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2012 at 5:44am
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Not going to happen, or at least so I was told - he plans to panel one wall of the finished gun room in manuals, checkerboard-style, under some sort of clear plastic protection.

As much as I admire and respect him, and laud his prodigious research efforts, we are diametrically opposed on that issue, which I tend to see as unrestrained greed, though he now seems to be drawing a line (even publicizing same) at what he will pay, which I do not believe was always the case. There are a number of collectors who are doing without, so that he can have (what I feel to be) more than one person needs. He will tell you - and fairly so - that it is his money, and they just need to look harder. Joe does not suffer laziness, or lack of initiative! I cannot argue with that - I just wouldn't follow the same path.
  
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