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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	1894bolt Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 3:53am	Print Post
	Hello 1st post. Will a 1894bolt fit a 1896. I know nothing about krags I'm told I have carbines.� �It seems to fit and looks fine� �Looking to sell the 1894.� Ser is 9735 Has no stock. My 96 ser is80563. Any help would be great.� I'm on my iPad and it won't let me add any pics� sorry J In Maine [/b][/b]

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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #1 - Jul 23^rd, 2012 at 4:21am	Print Post
	All US Krag bolts are interchangeable, especially going backwards - in other words, the latest bolt would fit the earliest rifle. The handle has a slightly different profile along the bottom edge, at the root, whereby an early bolt might only close 98/99% of the way in a late (over 109000, or Model 1898) receiver, but, given the serials mentioned, you would have no issues whatsoever. There are no Model 1894 carbines, so your 9735 is some sort of cut-off. The 1896 could possibly be an original carbine.


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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #2 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 1:32am	Print Post
	Here are some pics.� so you think it was cut down huh.� its the same size as my 96.� Do you know of anyone that would want to buy the 94.� i was going to break it down and sell it on the bay but I don't really want to.� I'm on the fence if i could find a stock i might keep it.� the ser number seems low thought that was a good think. thanks for getting back to me.� great site.� any idea on value of the 94 as it sits J� in Maine

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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #3 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 1:50am	Print Post
	J, It's definitely a cutdown. The front sight is not an original Krag sight. The picture was a little distorted when I opened it, but it may be a 1903 banded front sight, which is typical of a cut job. It still should be a good shooter if you put a stock on it! There are stocks out there... Paul


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #4 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:30am	Print Post
	I believe the "front sight" is actually a (seldom encountered) Krag carbine snap-on sight cover, which is made of spring steel, as opposed to the more common brass style of cover, for rifles.


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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #5 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:50pm	Print Post
	here is a pic of the site it doesn't look like its cut its nicely rounded, but what do i know. i saw where another member said they made 94 carbines briefly could this been one?

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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 3:58pm	Print Post
	this was the post i found Started by Gibbs \| Post by Dick Hosmer Just wanted to warn you that any "1894" marked Krag with a barrel less than 30" is definitely (99.99%) a bubba. For the record, both of the genuine M1892 Carbines had full-length stocks, and several other unique parts as well. The only possible exception would be one of the 'sight-test guns', from the 11xxx range. The configuration of them is - AFAIK - unknown, but presumed to be similar to an 1896 carbine. The serial numbers are known, but - again AFAIK - none of them have ever shown up. IF they exist, they could have short barrels and "1894" dates. So, joking aside, I suppose you should at least look at it, but be very careful. Pictures would definitely help.

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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	Well, looking at the much better photo, that is not a Krag sight cover!! Looks like an '03 barrel - in any event, it's a bubba.


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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 7:32pm	Print Post
	New guy here what's a bubba? Any value as it sits? Thank you

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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #9 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	It is certainly possible that the term was only marginally warranted in your case. A "bubba" is a derisive slang term often used to describe an otherwise collectible military arm which has been crudely "sporterized" (converted to a hunting rifle) in a garage, by someone who failed both wood shop AND machine shop. Chopped-off forends, hack-sawed barrels, ugly sights, double, even triple, sets of scope mounting holes, plastic stock inlays, etc. are staples of true bubba-dom. No offense was intended, but the 1894 has probably lost all collector value. If you want to sell it, browse (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) to get some ideas on presentation and price. Good pictures are, however, an absolute must!


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King KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6 Location: Maine Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #10 - Jul 25^th, 2012 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	Great thanks for the heads up. . Thanks for all your help. Grat forum. J

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Top Dean KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 299 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: 1894bolt Reply #11 - Jul 28^th, 2012 at 3:07am	Print Post
	if you are looking to get ride of one of your rifles please contact me and we can talk and go from there. Wayne.Dean@te.com


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