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krag57 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 3 Location: Fishers, IN Joined: Feb 20^th, 2013 Gender:	purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Feb 20^th, 2013 at 3:54am	Print Post
	I would like to know the purpose of the, what I'll call, "sling swivel" located directly behind the bayonet guide/attachment. Also, I'm sure there is a reason why it is a "split" swivel and not a "closed" swivel similar to the two for the sling.


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JOHN42768 KCA Official Member Offline Krag Collector! Posts: 94 Location: Upstate N.Y. Joined: Apr 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:01am	Print Post
	Hi, I believe you are referring to the stacking swivel. This was used in a field setting where two or three other Krags were hooked together to form a free standing rifle rack. It resembles a teepee. John


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:35am	Print Post
	That would be at least 3! after that, pile 'em on.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #3 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:49am	Print Post
	krag57: Two Krags could be 'hooked' together by their stacking swivels and a third Krag rested in the "V" formed by their barrel muzzles, thus forming a tripod. Additional Krags could be leaned on the tripod and other gear hung on the muzzles.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #4 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 4:53am	Print Post
	The 1903 Army Team at Camp Perry National Matches made unusual use of the stacking swivel as a sling swivel.


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krag57 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 3 Location: Fishers, IN Joined: Feb 20^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #5 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 5:04am	Print Post
	Excellent information, folks; much appreciated. Now, when my kids (they'll be the fourth generation owners) inherit the 2 Model 1898's (1899 & 1901) many years from now, they'll know more about them than I did when I first fired them in the 1970's.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #6 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 7:19am	Print Post
	I thought all three were hooked together? I know that's how it was done with M1s, and the third man had to give a little twist to "set" the assembly. I'd think hooking two, and simply leaning the third would be a recipe for disaster. Once the three are 'locked', the stack will hold as many as you can find room for.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #7 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 1:12am	Print Post
	Believe it or not... the USMC is still using this practice. When I was out at 29 Palms last February, I witnessed dozens of "Stacks" of M-4s/M-16s from the Marines I was working with. I don't believe they have the stacking swivel, but rather use a device to lock the initial three together.


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Top Dean KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 299 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Apr 22^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: purpose of forward "swivel" behind bayonet guide Reply #8 - Feb 21^st, 2013 at 2:14am	Print Post
	if the Marines do it like the Army does you ues the sling of one riffle and slide the barrels of the other two into it and thus you have you stacking base. Yes it does take 3 interlock with stacking swivels or it is a BIG mess in a very short time.


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