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Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine (Read 2735 times)

butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine Jun 28^th, 2014 at 7:52pm	Print Post
	I blundered into this listing yesterday on Guns International. It is being sold by an Arms Dealer, 'Monty W...', as a correct Constabulary Carbine.� I regard this piece as correct as its title: "Phillipine" (sic).� The price is $2950.� The pictures don't show much.� Muzzle looks freshly machined and front sight appears mounted crudely.� The fit of front band looks suspicious to me.� I believe the Magazine-gate is a Model 1896.� Left side of action shows inconsistencies in wear and patina on different parts.� This stuff makes me mad.� 'Monty' must work for the current Administration in DC (Trying to separate 'gun fanciers' from their money).
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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine Reply #1 - Jun 28^th, 2014 at 11:33pm	Print Post
	Looks like a "Parts Job" to me... and yes, that muzzle machining and front sight are very suspicious. Too many inconsistencies!


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine Reply #2 - Jun 29^th, 2014 at 12:56am	Print Post
	IIRC, having read both Brophy & Mallory, most of the real Constabulary Rifles were re-done 1899 Carbines, with just a few 1898 rifles and even fewer 1896s.� No sale at asking price, but I might pay 14 % of asking.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine Reply #3 - Jun 29^th, 2014 at 5:52am	Print Post
	Has a LOT of negatives, in addition to those noted, the bayonet lug is (incorrectly) not ground for the 1905 bayonet latch - a requirement for the genuine item. The seller obviously thinks that "pretty" trumps "correct" when setting the price. He'll be keeping it for awhile.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Real or Fake - Constabulary Carbine Reply #4 - Jun 29^th, 2014 at 9:12am	Print Post
	Real Philippine Constabulary Carbines:


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