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Butt Plate
May 10th, 2015 at 8:07pm
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New member here. Hope I don't ask too stupid a question.
I have project that started with a 1901 stock and receiver. The stock needs a butt plate. The pics I see searching the net all show a single trap door. This seems odd as there are two drilled holes in the end of the stock (I assume one is for the oiler & the other looks like it has three deeper drilled holes for cleaning rods. Other inline photos show the same.) Am I just not finding butt plates with two traps, or did they not exist and you had to unscrew the butt plate to access the cleaning kit? Or am I way off altogether?  Huh Want to find the right plate for this project gun.
  
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Re: Butt Plate
Reply #1 - May 10th, 2015 at 10:12pm
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'banjobill": Welcome to the KCA Forum.

Only the top hole is used on the U.S. Krag Stock for storage. The lower hole is to reduce weight.

Attached picture shows accessories in place. The Krag oil bottle is much smaller than the 1903 Springfield and 1917 Enfield version.
  
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Reply #2 - May 11th, 2015 at 12:04am
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Thanks for the info & photos butlersrangers. So, as I understand the brass item in your photo is the muzzle/sight cover? Since I don't have one yet, your saying it fits in the one hole with the oiler and the rods, eh?
  
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Re: Butt Plate
Reply #3 - May 11th, 2015 at 12:21am
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No, the muzzle cover will not fit in the butt - just the rods and oiler.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 19th, 2015 at 11:32pm
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butlersrangers wrote on May 10th, 2015 at 10:12pm:
'banjobill": Welcome to the KCA Forum.

Only the top hole is used on the U.S. Krag Stock for storage. The lower hole is to reduce weight.

Attached picture shows accessories in place. The Krag oil bottle is much smaller than the 1903 Springfield and 1917 Enfield version.

Excuse my ignorance but, where's the oil bottle in your bottom picture?
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Re: Butt Plate
Reply #5 - Jun 20th, 2015 at 2:00am
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'S.B.': The knurled end of the oil container can be seen below the three cleaning-rod ends. (There is some confusing reflection because the 'oiler' is nickel plated).

The 'oiler' is put in the bottom of the butt-trap 1st. Then the 3 rods are inserted into their individual holes and keep the oiler in place. It is good practice to stuff a folded up cleaning patch between the rod ends and the butt-trap door to keep things quiet and from moving.

  
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Re: Butt Plate
Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2015 at 11:49am
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The cleaning patch is good practice!  I actually used a folded-up piece of paper towel, but the practice is the same.  I also put my oiler in with the knurled knob towards the front, just incase the top leaks...  keeps the oil from leaking out while the rifle is standing up.

There have been reports of people experiencing the loss of their oilers in the stock.  Some stocks have a little space opened up between the two holes due to mis-alignment when the stock was manufactured.  The oiler manages to fall into the lower lightening hole and rattle around until the butt plate is removed.  I read of a guy who was refinishing his stock and discovered an oiler in there!
  
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