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Silver fox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 3 Joined: Feb 15^th, 2016	Model 1896 rife question Feb 15^th, 2016 at 9:55pm	Print Post
	I am a new member and have just acquired a model 1896. The action barrel and all the hardware is in very fine shape. My problem is the stock has been cut down just past the sling swivel. The stock has very good cartouches including the year mark of 1897. I have been unable to locate another original stock and I don't want to put a new stock on it. I have seen a replacement stock piece advertised that would bring the stock back to original length. Would this be the best solution or should I keep looking for an original stock?


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #1 - Feb 15^th, 2016 at 10:54pm	Print Post
	Does it still have the hand guard? Also, has the barrel been cut? You could obtain a new front piece and graft it on to your existing stock to restore the original length (many have done this before). Original stocks are out there, but sometimes command a hefty sum...


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Silver fox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 3 Joined: Feb 15^th, 2016	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #2 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 2:57am	Print Post
	The barrel has not been cut, it is still the original length. The upper hand guard is intact. The graft solution would appear to be the least expensive and I would be maintaining the bulk of the original stock which does have the cartouches and is in excellent shape. Anybody out there have good stock for sale? Thanks for the reply.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #3 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 3:21am	Print Post
	'silver fox' - Welcome to the KCA Forum. If you can post some close-up detail pictures, you will get better information and guidance. It does sound like a 'spliced forearm' under the rear barrel-band is the best way for you to go. You will need the forearm blank, a front-barrel band and screw.


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Silver fox KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 3 Joined: Feb 15^th, 2016	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #4 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 6:35pm	Print Post
	butlers rangers: Thank you for the reply and the welcome. I do have the front barrel band which includes the bayonet lug. Whoever cut down the stock cut in down in a manner that they slid the front band/bayonet lug down to 6" forward of the hand guard band. I would like to post a picture but my wife took the digital camera down state to visit the grandkids. Thank you. I did see a repair piece on a site called " Gun Broker" when I queried Krag stock. Silver fox


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #5 - Feb 16^th, 2016 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	'silver fox' - I'm glad you have the front barrel-band and hand-guard for your model 1896 Krag rifle. That saves you a lot of money and makes 'stretching' your stock a great option. Here is a graphic that someone, (possibly 'parashooter'), posted on KCA years ago. It makes suggestions for a strong splice.
	« Last Edit: Feb 17^th, 2016 at 5:33am by butlersrangers »

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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #6 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 5:47pm	Print Post
	this is the latest Krag that I have stretched back out to full length using the methods shown by ButlersRangers. I like to think it passes the 10 foot test. Most of us would not look twice at it from a distance of 10 feet. Up close the average Joe is going to see a nice Krag, the more discerning eye is going to to say "wait a minute, take of that barrel band!" My thanks to 5 Mad Farmers for providing the proper finish.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #7 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	Good looking model 1896, Mark, and interesting 'gun cleaning' technique! "Discerning Eye"


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #8 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 6:13pm	Print Post
	This Krag turned into a gem. I was sold on the 1901 rear sight but this rifle is right on and I can use the sights on it, the 1901 site is getting hard for my presbyoptic eyes. I would say that the forearms that I have received from East Taylor LLC have been better than this one. This one cost less but next time I will be sure to go to East Taylor.


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #9 - Feb 18^th, 2016 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	I agree, the ones from E. Taylor are better made. Communication from the gunbroker seller doesn't happen. In order to match his diameter I had to splice about the middle of the band, I was lucky and had that excess. It took some pre-planning to get things to match up right. As delivered, the gunbroker seller's was too small at the back. I offered my feedback and heard nothing back from him.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #10 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:30am	Print Post
	In case one doesn't know - The East Taylor LLC / Schwartz hand-guard and forearm contact information is in the KCA Classifieds.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #11 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 8:15am	Print Post
	Who was the "bad" GB vendor? I'm guessing Larryeprice? If so, the guy is an a-hole, and has been one for years. Don't ever expect to hear back from him, on anything - and his stuff is junk.


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #12 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 12:01pm	Print Post
	madsenshooter wrote on Feb 18^th, 2016 at 6:56pm: I agree, the ones from E. Taylor are better made. Communication from the gunbroker seller doesn't happen. In order to match his diameter I had to splice about the middle of the band, I was lucky and had that excess. It took some pre-planning to get things to match up right. As delivered, the gunbroker seller's was too small at the back. I offered my feedback and heard nothing back from him. I would add that the Gunbroker seller will not accept returns and does not ship when he says he will and does not ship on payment, which would have been OK with me had I known up front that he only ships on certain days.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #13 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 3:48pm	Print Post
	Might I ask again - for the general good - the name of the GB seller under discussion? I made a nomination. If it was correct, it should be confirmed. If it was incorrect, I should issue a retraction - which I will do. If the silence is maintained, a scumbag is being shielded, or an honest man has been maligned. Neither is proper. Now do the right thing!


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Ned Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 525 Location: western catskills NY Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: Model 1896 rife question Reply #14 - Feb 19^th, 2016 at 9:58pm	Print Post
	Yes please let the board members know so others can avoid similar problems!


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