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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Hello all, I am hoping someone can help me out. I recently inherited what appears to be a Springfield model 1898 chambered in 30-40 Krag. I am a gun guy, but I don't know anything about these rifles, and accurate online literature is hard to find. someone very obviously mounted a scope after the fact, but that may be the only modification as far as I can tell. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. I am uploading some photos as well. Thanks!


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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #1 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:41pm	Print Post
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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #2 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 7:42pm	Print Post
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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #3 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:01pm	Print Post
	Looks like you have a 1898 saddle ring carbine stock. Is the original butt plate there? Lucky find there. M1903 Springfield rifle front sight leads me to believe cut down rifle. What's the serial number? You have a 1902 rear sight. Do you see a letter C on either side of the rear sight? C = equals carbine sight. No C = rifle sight.

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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #4 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	Thanks Culpepper. Here is a photo of the butt plate. I will take a look at the sight later on. What length should the barrel be?


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #5 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	'Anibus415' - Welcome to the KCA Forum. "Bummer"!!! Possibly, a model 1898 carbine that got "Sportered". (At least the refinished stock is the early type of 1898 Carbine Stock and the barrel-band is the right type) The added sling swivels are a blemish to the stock. Only 5,000 model 1898 carbines were made. Most were later up-dated to the model 1899 carbine configuration. The serial number is hidden under the Weaver Scope Mount and would reveal if the receiver is in the model 1898 carbine range or a 'cut-down' rifle. The 'scope holes' destroy collector potential. It would be interesting to see a detailed close photo of your rear-sight base. The front-sight looks like the type used by W. Stokes Kirk to make imitation carbines for hunting. These were cut-down rifles put in surplus carbine stocks. Your Krag is worth its utility value - around $300. But, by all means shoot and enjoy a family heirloom!


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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #6 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	Thanks a lot guys. I will take some more pics of the sights and barrel and upload later on. I will also remove the scope mount and take some photos as well as get the serial number. The bore is good, and I have some old rounds that I inherited with the gun. Should be ok to shoot... I guess. Everything is tight and in working order.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #7 - Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Oh, p.s. - Your Krag appears to have a Buehler safety-lever added to function with the Scope.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #8 - Jan 19^th, 2017 at 3:53am	Print Post
	Anubis415 wrote on Jan 18^th, 2017 at 8:11pm: Thanks Culpepper. Here is a photo of the butt plate. I will take a look at the sight later on. What length should the barrel be? Carbine barrels should be 22 inches. Run a cleaning rod down the barrel to the closed bolt face. Mark the length at the muzzle and measure. Don't be too disappointed if the rear scope mount screw is in the serial number. I have a barreled receiver that I will never know the correct serial number because there is a big gaping hole in it.

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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #9 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 3:44pm	Print Post
	Ok so I measured the barrel and it is in fact 22inches. I also attached a closeup(s) of the sight, muzzle, serial number, and butt plate. Any further clarification would be great!!


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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #10 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 3:46pm	Print Post
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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #11 - Jan 20^th, 2017 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	Your Krag, #482680, was manufactured around August, 1903, as a model 1898 rifle. The barrel is likely a cut-down rifle barrel. The front sight is a commercial one, like W. Stokes Kirk utilized. The rear-sight is a mixture of rifle sight parts: 1898-sight base and 1902 or early 1903-sight top. It is probable it was assembled from surplus parts. The whole rig looks like the improvised 'carbines' sold by the W. Stokes Kirk company to sportsmen in the 1920s and 1930s.


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Anubis415 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Joined: Jan 18^th, 2017	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #12 - Jan 26^th, 2017 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	Thank you very much! I plan on shooting the rifle and seeing what it can do..... hopefully its right on and worth keeping....


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Info needed - 1898 30-40 Springfield Reply #13 - Feb 10^th, 2017 at 5:11pm	Print Post
	That has to be pretty close to the end of the line for Krag receivers. Has anyone seen a higher #?


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