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600 Yards With the Krag
Apr 12th, 2017 at 5:11pm
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UPDATE: the match was cancelled due to the Corps needing to do some work in the impact area so unfortunately I have nothing to report. jt 05-01-17
I have a 600x3 mid range match coming up on the 28th at Camp Pendleton. I used to shoot my 03A3 but the group in charge of the range say 30-06 is now verboten on that range. I've tried a couple of other rifles just to see how they'd do. This time I'm going to see how my '98 US Krag rifle fares. I'll keep you posted as to how well she does. She's dead on at 100 so I'm hoping we'll do well together. I'll be shooting Hornady 168 grain A Max's.
Rifle made in '98 but refitted with 1902 sight. Hopefully these 62YO eyes and peep sight get along with each other.
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Re: 600 Yards With the Krag
Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2017 at 7:29pm
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You can, by the rules, enlarge that peep if it helps.  Won't help with my right eye vision.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 13th, 2017 at 11:09am
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I found the Sgt. Peep woefully small at 0.04".  So I installed a spare 1902 sight that I didn't mind altering and enlarged the peep to 0.07".  That's about as big as I could go without damaging the plate.  It made a WORLD of difference in sight picture!!!  Bear in mind that you'll also need to enlarge the notch.  Otherwise, you'll be looking at the notch through the peep.  I used a set of wire gauge drills to accomplish the task, and then used a tiny rotary file in my Dremell to carefully clean up the hole and edges (remember, a twist drill does not make around hole).
  
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Reply #3 - May 15th, 2017 at 8:36pm
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Update. New date is June 17th. Hopefully it'll fly this time. I'll keep you posted.
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Reply #4 - May 15th, 2017 at 11:33pm
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Reply #5 - May 16th, 2017 at 12:10pm
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Can't wait to hear how the Krag does at 600!  Mine is pretty good at 200...
  
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Reply #6 - May 16th, 2017 at 3:15pm
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Only thing I've ever shot at that distance was my M1A.  I actually did better at 600 than I did at the nearer distances, of course in different positions.  That was back about 1990 in a Ohio Rifle and Pistol Association match in the early spring.
  
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Reply #7 - May 18th, 2017 at 3:01am
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I used to shoot the 600 match with my 03A3 but for some reason the 30-06 is no longer allowed on that range so I need to find some thing that doesn't have the over penetration or range.
Forgot to mention, the rifle is an 1898 with the 1901 sight.
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Reply #8 - May 24th, 2017 at 11:50pm
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Good luck! I'm excited to see how it goes!
  

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Re: 600 Yards With the Krag
Reply #9 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 7:28pm
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T minus 20 hrs and counting. Looks like the match is a go for tomorrow. I'll post the results tomorrow eve if I'm not too wiped out. Sunday at the latest. Mind you, I'm only going to report on the Krag's performance, not the match results. No one needs to know how poorly I performed. I never place or even show, but have a good time losing any way. I only compete against mineself.
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Reply #10 - Jun 16th, 2017 at 10:21pm
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Good luck, and have fun!
  
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Reply #11 - Jun 18th, 2017 at 9:26pm
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Well the match went off without any hitches. The Krag shot ok, I think. Nothing to write home about but she worked fine all things considered. I didn't really know what to expect so I don't know whether to be elated or bury my head in shame. Bottom line, each string was 20 rounds prone, slow fire with a possible of 200-20. I shot her in 2 of the 3 strings. First string we shot a 99-1. Second string was a 85-0, but by then the wind was blowing at a good clip at 90* to line of flight. A lot of the shots were landing short of the target or wide due to the wind. I was using the "V" notch as target acquisition with the peep was proving difficult at best.
I was shooting the Hornady A Max 168 gr bullet over 38.0 grs of IMR4895. I'm thinking the bearing surface of the bullet, combined with the boat tail probably isn't the ideal bullet for the rifle. There's another match next month on the 29th. I'm going to try a heavier, longer bullet in the 200 gr range and see if that helps any. I certainly can't do any worse.
Maybe I'm just expecting too much of the old gal. She certainly was quite the conversation piece mixed in amongst all the modern black rifles and F class shooters.
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Reply #12 - Jun 19th, 2017 at 3:36pm
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Good job with the two strings that did go well!
  
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Re: 600 Yards With the Krag
Reply #13 - Jun 21st, 2017 at 1:35am
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I think you'll get much better accuracy at those long distances with the 220 gr.  Although probably fine at 100 or 200 at the lower velocities, I think that lighter bullet would be too prone to wind and atmospheric conditions at longer distances... where as the 220 gr has sufficient mass to not be as affected.  The bullet will have a much more arched trajectory, but it was actually designed to take advantage of that, so...
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 21st, 2017 at 3:13am
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psteinmayer wrote on Jun 21st, 2017 at 1:35am:
. . . I think that lighter bullet would be too prone to wind and atmospheric conditions at longer distances... where as the 220 gr has sufficient mass to not be as affected. . .

I disagree, Paul. The 168 A-Max has a much higher BC and can be safely driven about 500 fps faster than the 220 RN. Consequently, the wind deflection for the 220 at 600 yards is more than double what we'd get with the 168. Do the calculations and you'll see the difference. (To make matters worse, the 220 RN starting at 2000 fps goes transonic well before 600 yards - not good for stability.)

MJ - consider the Hornady 178 ELD, with a bit more bearing surface and BC than the 168. Might be safe with the same 38 gr. 4895 load, but please observe usual precautions when changing bullets. (Back off, work up.) IMR4350 probably a better choice.

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