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bote KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 133 Location: Kentucky Joined: Apr 18^th, 2016 Gender:	Flea Market Find Sep 9^th, 2017 at 9:47pm	Print Post
	A friend called me from the local flea market and told me they had some old Springfield rifles that were pretty nice. I drove two miles and bought these two. Could not believe it. The bore on the 1898 is a little frosty but it's a really nice rifle. The 1873 has the nicest bore I've ever seen. She also had an early 1903 that was really nice but I've been tapping into the $ put aside for a kitchen remodel so I exercised admirable restraint.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #1 - Sep 9^th, 2017 at 11:13pm	Print Post
	Nice additions to your collection! No SRS hit on #470107. (I have an 1898 Krag '58 units' behind it). Good looking rifles!.


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Kerz KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 307 Location: KY Joined: Jan 13^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #2 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 10:02am	Print Post
	Wow, I need to start going to flea markets! Vic

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HeyJoe KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 43 Location: Roanoke VA Joined: Aug 29^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #3 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 1:15pm	Print Post
	Everyone has a kitchen; they come with the house. Joe


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AFJuvat KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 65 Location: Jacksonville, FL Joined: Mar 10^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #4 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	Very nice pick-ups! Congratulations.


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1911Ron KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 59 Location: Buckeye,Az Joined: May 16^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #5 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 8:17pm	Print Post
	Nice additions!


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #6 - Sep 10^th, 2017 at 10:12pm	Print Post
	Ok Bote... didn't I tell you to let me know when you get another deal???? I didn't???? Well... Here then: "Bote, Let me know when you find another great deal!!!" Great looking rifles, my friend! Paul


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bote KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 133 Location: Kentucky Joined: Apr 18^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #7 - Sep 11^th, 2017 at 11:19pm	Print Post
	What the heck, I went back Sunday to see if the 1903 was still there. It was and I was about to mark one of the two rifles off my wish list but the serial number was a 284xxx, a 1907 rifle. I don't know much about them but I've read to avoid serial numbers below 800,000. It had a WW2 barrel so it has survived a long time but I decided to pass. The other rifle on my list is a model 1861 Springfield.


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gnoahhh KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 147 Location: Annapolis, MD Joined: Feb 1^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 2:21pm	Print Post
	Don't ignore those low number '03's. A 1907 vintage one will have been made with the same steel, by the same guys, following the same heat treat protocols as when the last of our Krags were made just a couple of years earlier. Just don't hot rod the ammo you feed it. Later "low number" '03's made when they were ramping up production for wartime is where the troublesome ones are generally found.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2017 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	Basically, what 'gnoahhh' wrote is correct. However, a big difference between the 1903 Springfield and the U.S. Krag-Jorgensen rifle is the rim of the .30-40 cartridge case. A .30-06 cartridge case failure in the '03 Springfield may allow hot high-pressure gases to flow back into the Receiver and subject it to tremendous stresses. Brittle single heat-treat 1903 receivers from all years (Springfield and Rock Island) are known to have failed. Multiple factors entered into the failures. A significant factor was 'out of specification content' of the steel alloy. With the .30-40 cartridge, the rim serves as a gas seal. In the event of a split or separated case, the hot high-pressure gases are confined to the chamber and bore. There is less likelihood of gases flowing into the action. FWIW - I am not trying to start or open the old tedious debate. People are free to make educated choices. I do feel safe shooting .30-40 Krags. I will not shoot low number Springfields. I do shoot a high number (nickel steel) 1903 Springfield and a Remington 1903-A3.


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bote KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 133 Location: Kentucky Joined: Apr 18^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #10 - Sep 27^th, 2017 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	I don't own an early 1903 but it's the last rifle on my mandatory list. I've just never found one in the right original condition I could afford. This one had been "prettied up" too much. Nice original 1903s seem to sell for 3 times what a comparable Krag brings in my experience. I'm in way over my head right now anyway. The kitchen $ is all gone.


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Kerz KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 307 Location: KY Joined: Jan 13^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: Flea Market Find Reply #11 - Sep 27^th, 2017 at 10:26pm	Print Post
	I'm sure your wife will understand! Vic

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