I want some of you to drop by this website and read BATF's Sept of last year modification to previous law.  Previously, pre-1898 made Krags were considered antique firearms.  As such, they could be bought and shipped interstate with no transfer required.  But look at the new definition:  "For the purposes of the National Firearms Act, the term “Antique Firearms” means any firearm not intended or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade." We were being all woeful that Krag ammo was no longer being made in the US!  Some of us would have been better off if Remington had not resumed production!  Exactly what does it mean?  It means that if I wish to sell one of my antiques to someone in another state, I'd have to ship it to a FFL, whereas I didn't have to before!  My antique is no longer an antique even though it was made prior to 1898!  It means that even if someone lists a pre-1898 Krag as an antique, and they're out of your state, you could get it trouble for buying it without the transfer.  I know, we used to try to get an idea of the serial # range needed to meet the old definition, but that doesn't matter with this relatively new one!  92s and 96s would no longer be antiques because they use fixed ammunition that is manufactured in the US!  Someone tell me I'm not reading this right!  Change in view was effective Sep 2016, when Obama's DOJ was interpreting things. (You need to Login to view media files and links)

madsenshooter wrote on Sep 29^th, 2017 at 2:59am:

Are you sure about Title 18? Text I found at GPO site seems to apply the "no longer manufactured" bit only to replicas. Note the "or" here -

(16) The term “antique firearm” means—

(A) any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system) manufactured in or before 1898; or

(B) any replica of any firearm described in subparagraph (A) if such replica—

(i) is not designed or redesigned for using rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition, or

(ii) uses rimfire or conventional centerfire fixed ammunition which is no longer manufactured in the United States and which is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade;

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Confusion may arise from the fact that "firearm" under the NFA is a tighter definition, covering only the short-barrel types, machineguns, silencers, "destructive devices". Consequently, a pre-1899 7mm "potato digger" is a non-antique "firearm" under Title 26, but that '96 Krag would be antique per Title 18 - unless I'm missing something. (Not a lawyer!)

I guess I can stop cursing Remington's decision to make more ammo now!  Now to work on that dealer.  I got an empty slot in my collection!  If we were to go by the dealer's interpretation, which involves the fact that it uses ammunition that's made here in the US, Trapdoors in 45-70 wouldn't be antiques!

Thanks parashooter, superfluous words in law, ought to be a law agin it!  He's wrong, I'm right!  Hopefully it's someone respects your opinion, like I do!

My eyes cross and my brain hurts when I try to read those tongue-twisters, but I have always said that splitting identical firearms (such as the Krag, and 1894 Winchester) by serial number was idiotic. They should have been all in or all out, by a carefully composed list.

I think you're right BR.  The Obama executive order barring the disabled from firearms, believe it or not, seemed to be a direct result of me posting that his immigration executive order was unlawful.  I posted that on the whitehouse.gov page.  Wasn't long after a company that had done work for DHS checked my online resume.  Then my health records were stolen.  Then Obama came up with the executive order about the disabled, which got Trumped.  But I let my C&R expire before Trump got into office and Obama was still in.  All that just to keep me from playing with antiques!  Na, na, didn't work Obozo!

This is the best explanation I have found:  (You need to Login to view media files and links)

I am still arguing with the person, simply because I have no reason to pay a FFL to receive an obviously antique 1896 made Krag.  I have a cousin by marriage who has a FFL and lives up the street, but he doesn't give family discounts, since he has a partner in his out of town business!  There's good instruction here, on how a dealer should handle the transfer of an antique that has been in the system:  (You need to Login to view media files and links)

I tried to purchase a WW1 Luger magazine from a Gentleman in Great Britain, who needed it 'ID'ed, had no use for it, and mentioned it on another gun forum.

I informed him of what he had, and offered to buy it. I could have used it and would have paid him a very fair price.

Fellow forum members, from all over the Globe, kibitzed with unwanted and ill informed 'legal concerns' and totally scared the poor man. (No laws would have been broken and it would have been a perfectly safe transaction, with all the risk on me).

It was a lesson in how 'Authorities' have some gun enthusiasts totally confused and scared. It turns us on each other or makes things more complicated than necessary.