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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #15 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	It is basically a babbitt, however you have to be careful not to get too much antimony. It is too brittle with too much antimony, the bands shatter and blow back on the caseneck with only 30,000-35,000PSI. Rich, you'd be pretty safe using 2400 data with the 10B101.


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Todd Doyka KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 52 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #16 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Culpeper wrote on Nov 27^th, 2017 at 5:44am: Guys I was reading Cast bullets in the .30-40 Krag by Glen E. Fryxell was wondering if any of you have experience with the bullets he wrote about in the piece. It looks interesting. It might be something I should try at some point. (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) i use a 165gr ranch dog(173 gr actually) in my krag. it is going roughly 1800fps and it will go approx 1 1/4 - 2" at 100 yards(5 shots/benched). i find it quite convincing on deer, meaning they go drt!!! sometime i have to try a 165gr rd with 2400 but h4198 is my go to powder.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #17 - Nov 28^th, 2017 at 10:32pm	Print Post
	I'm pushing those 311365s at around 1500 with the 19 grains of AA5744. Really lobbing them in at 200, but the accuracy is pretty amazing!


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Hamish KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 88 Location: Williamson County, Illinois Joined: Jun 1^st, 2017 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #18 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 3:58am	Print Post
	If you tell me they're plain base, you'll make my day. I've had a 5C 311365PB sitting beside my chair next to my coffee cup for some time now,,,,,,,,,


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #19 - Nov 29^th, 2017 at 9:11pm	Print Post
	No, they're not plain base, gas checked. But, your PBs might work well with Paul's load, or 15-16gr of your hard to weigh 10B101.
	« Last Edit: Nov 30^th, 2017 at 5:01pm by madsenshooter »

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Hamish KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 88 Location: Williamson County, Illinois Joined: Jun 1^st, 2017 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #20 - Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 3:18pm	Print Post
	madsenshooter wrote on Nov 29^th, 2017 at 9:11pm: No, they're not plain base, gas checked. But, your PBs might work well with Paul's load, or 15-16gr of your hard to weigh 10B101. You read my mind. With the Chargemaster it's actually not bad with the 10B101. The tricky part that I've not solved yet is, this particular powder immediately wants to stick to the plastic. (learned this the hard way after not taking the time to empty between morning and evening sessions). I have been hesitant to mix powdered graphite into the jug, but dusting the reservoir helps.


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Hoot KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 69 Location: Diversityville, Liberal-sota Joined: Oct 11^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #21 - Dec 3^rd, 2017 at 5:30pm	Print Post
	Another trick I have used, but not on plastic, is anti-static dryer sheets. This assumes it's a static problem, of course. More of a problem in the winter here in MN that other seasons.


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reincarnated KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 562 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2012	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #22 - Dec 17^th, 2017 at 11:28pm	Print Post
	Have you checked Rotometals to see if they will make up an alloy for you? And have you guys tried an old Belding & Mull powder measure? Nearly Kragish in vintage and way better than most of the newer stuff.


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BCB KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Joined: Feb 5^th, 2017	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #23 - Dec 19^th, 2017 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	madsenshooter wrote on Nov 28^th, 2017 at 5:00am: I'm still working with that stuff, but the really fast 311365 loads with the high speed alloy was a case full of WC860 with a bit of boost. The 7383 is doing great in the K31 with 168gr Sierra Tipped Matchkings. I use a full case of WC-860 or WC-872 with the NOE 311-202-RN for velocities of 1954 fps and 1848 fps respectively from a 26” MGM barrel on an Encore… I see you are using 7383. Is this the powder that is sold by one of the surplus powder sellers on the Internet? I have a jug of it and it works well in my 6.8mm SPC, but I have not tried it in the Krag… Any info on data for that powder. My lot is a bit faster than IMR-4064… Thanks…BCB


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #24 - Dec 20^th, 2017 at 2:18am	Print Post
	I'll pm you about the slower lot I'm working with, 48000.


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Todd Doyka KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 52 Joined: Mar 9^th, 2015	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #25 - Dec 21^st, 2017 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Hamish wrote on Nov 27^th, 2017 at 3:45pm: If there's any chance you plan to deer hunt with your Krag, this is a good one to consider: (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) thats a nice boolit!!! maybe i'll try it sometime!!!


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Cat Man KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 102 Joined: Jan 20^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #26 - Dec 31^st, 2017 at 1:14am	Print Post
	Anyone interested in shooting Cast Bullets at Camp Perry CMP Vintage matches?


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #27 - Dec 31^st, 2017 at 4:39am	Print Post
	I tried, I think a couple yrs ago, with the 311365 spitzer. The alloy I tried to use didn't hold up at the 2100fps I was going for. They weighted 203gr, so I thought I'd try duplicating the 1907 Palma load. Lead was blowing back on the case necks, when that happens accuracy rapidly goes south! Even so, wasn't the worst score I ever shot! 230, back in 2014.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #28 - Dec 31^st, 2017 at 12:41pm	Print Post
	Cat Man wrote on Dec 31^st, 2017 at 1:14am: Anyone interested in shooting Cast Bullets at Camp Perry CMP Vintage matches? That is one of the reasons I asked the question. I read somewhere the pure linotype is good for match bullets and thought I would try that with a good mold.

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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Cast bullet question Reply #29 - Dec 31^st, 2017 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	I'm not positive, but I think Mark Daiute might have a few years ago (that was when we met him Bob... remember?). I'm sure that there are others who shoot Cast at Perry too!


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