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Re: 1895 Lee Navy
Reply #15 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 12:35am
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How many Lee Navy rifles have been blown up since the internet came into use?  & how many such accidents have been at least discussed (or maybe photographed in all their horrible detail?

And has anyone ever heard of a .25 Souper?  A wildcat made from 6mm Lee Navy brass with the neck expanded to .25 caliber.  One old timer told me that is what was done with some of the surplus Lee Navy rifles after their issue barrels were no longer accurate.
  
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Re: 1895 Lee Navy
Reply #16 - Feb 7th, 2018 at 8:32pm
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Hmmm...hadn't heard of the 6mm Lee Navy being the parent cartridge for the Souper. I had understood it to be a 25 caliber .308 case. I'll have to look again.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:15am
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I recall seeing the name Souper, in one of my case forming books, but can't recall details without finding the book!  Oh, it jumped out at me, thickest book I have!  Book says .25-308 for the Souper.  All I see  in 25 cal wildcats that approximate the 6mm's headsize is 30-40 and .303 wildcats.  But I'll bet somewhere along the way someone made a .25 Swift or maybe a .25 Lee!
  
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Re: 1895 Lee Navy
Reply #18 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:31am
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Referring back to BR's pic of the blown rifle.  That 30/40 case held.  The problem was how much it had to hold, as evidenced by the expanded primer pocket.  Yes, it was likely a little weaker with it's machined extractor groove, but it was strong enough to hold through all that primer pocket enlargement.  Someone didn't load it right, or created an SEE event shooting a thick jacketed bullet in a rough throat with a light charge.   My opinion anyway.
  
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Re: 1895 Lee Navy
Reply #19 - Feb 9th, 2018 at 4:59pm
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madsenshooter wrote on Feb 9th, 2018 at 12:15am:
I recall seeing the name Souper, in one of my case forming books, but can't recall details without finding the book!  Oh, it jumped out at me, thickest book I have!  Book says .25-308 for the Souper.  All I see  in 25 cal wildcats that approximate the 6mm's headsize is 30-40 and .303 wildcats.  But I'll bet somewhere along the way someone made a .25 Swift or maybe a .25 Lee!


Back in 1989, I was messing about with a Lee Navy sporter with a bad barrel.  The old time gunsmith that was helping me said "back in the day, they would have bored it out to .25.  There was a wildcat called the Souper. Just the Lee Navy case necked up to .25 caliber."
  
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