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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Apr 13^th, 2018 at 7:53pm	Print Post
	Greetings, All. I am in the process of repairing an 1892 rifle that has been bubba'd. This is a true 1892 that never saw, was never subject too, the 1896 upgrade. Unless someone wants to make me a deal I can't refuse, I can not afford an 1892 front barrel band and I need to fabricate one from an 1896 barrel band. If anyone would post photos of an 1892 band, either in situ or by itself, it would be greatly, and I mean, GREATLY appreciated. If there is any interest I will document the repair work and share it here. Thanks, Mark


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	For now, I'll describe it: There is a bulge at bottom center with a hole to allow passage of the rod. The bulge does not extend the full length of the band, only about 5/8" or so. The whole thing looks (from the front) much like the lines of a camelback mantel clock, as there are smooth re-entrant curves at the sides, it is NOT simply an inset cylinder, as the lower edge of the rod hole is tangent to the line of the inner diameter of the band.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	It would be very interesting and neat if you document your progress here, Mark. How exciting. Congratulations on a worthy project. I am not qualified to be of much help, but, will enjoy seeing the story unfold! I wish you very good luck in finding great parts!


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	oh, man, you mean there's a reverse curve where the front of the entry thimble joins the bottom of the barrel band? This aint going to be easy.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	I have not seen any if it looks like this. Sorry. It is the only pic I have. But it you can hold out for August or September I might be able to get a couple more shots.

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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #5 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	Culpeper wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 9:03pm: I have not seen any if it looks like this. Sorry. It is the only pic I have. But it you can hold out for August or September I might be able to get a couple more shots. So you (ro whoever owns this rifle)have the solid band. Thanks for the response! I need to see what the front looks like, where the ramrod, excuse me, cleaning rod, enters


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #6 - Apr 13^th, 2018 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	Mark - You probably know, already. Brophy has decent pictures of the 1892 front band on pages 23 and 24 of "The Krag Rifle". Mallory and Poyer have good sketches in their books.


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #7 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 12:11am	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on Apr 13^th, 2018 at 10:04pm: Mark - You probably know, already. Brophy has decent pictures of the 1892 front band on pages 23 and 24 of "The Krag Rifle". Mallory and Poyer have good sketches in their books. No! I did not know! Thanks.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #8 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 4:30am	Print Post
	Dug deep into the krag photos. Found this one on the web years ago. Have you tried 5madfarmers over on Culver's shooting page? He might have a pic from his book.

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #9 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 5:05am	Print Post
	Springfield Armory picture only shows side-view. I found a couple of other views on my hard-drive.


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #10 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 12:26pm	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on Apr 14^th, 2018 at 5:05am: Springfield Armory picture only shows side-view. I found a couple of other views on my hard-drive. You did it, photo in the lower right hand corner, thanks!


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #11 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 12:31pm	Print Post
	This is not going to be easy. sigh.


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Ned Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 525 Location: western catskills NY Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #12 - Apr 14^th, 2018 at 11:15pm	Print Post
	Mark, I had one made about 15 years ago by a local gunsmith. He took a piece of steel tube the proper size and built up the edges with weld then re shaped them. Not too hard if you have or have access to a good welder.


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #13 - Apr 15^th, 2018 at 12:53am	Print Post
	Ned Butts wrote on Apr 14^th, 2018 at 11:15pm: Mark, I had one made about 15 years ago by a local gunsmith. He took a piece of steel tube the proper size and built up the edges with weld then re shaped them. Not too hard if you have or have access to a good welder. Ned, thanks! Almost exactly what I have planned. I have a very close friend that is a master smith, I'm going to farm it out to him. Do you still have that 1892? A photo would be real nice.


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Ned Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 525 Location: western catskills NY Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: IN NEED OF 1892 HELP Reply #14 - Apr 15^th, 2018 at 2:04pm	Print Post
	My brother has it now I will see what I can do.


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