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Apr 16th, 2018 at 5:28pm
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I wish I knew more about this photo, saved years ago, on my 'hard-drive'.

The men appear to be U.S. Regulars with model 1892 Krag-Jorgensen 'magazine rifles', with clearing-rods.

Date, location, and unit are unknown to me.

I am sure it could be any of a number of U.S. Military Posts.

Definitely a transitional time in equipment and tactics.
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 16th, 2018 at 7:45pm
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Any higher resolution?  Definitely not Fort Crook,
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 12:47pm
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If you can determine the company and regimental number on the haversacks, the details of the post might, at least, be estimated.
If the number is the 8th US Infantry, their deployments were - until at least 1886 - in Arizona and west Texas.  Since specific posts during that period were by company or companies, the actual post may never be known for sure.  Since this date would be 1894 or later (right?) the post might still be somewhere in the southwest, but could be narrowed down if a regimental association exists somewhere. 
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 2:30pm
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Unfortunately, bayonets and shadows obstruct the unit markings on the haversacks. (8th Inf. is a possibility, so is 3rd, 6th & 9th)

This is the only image of this photo, that I have, and context was never available to me.

The row of Officer homes reminds me of Ft. Vancouver, Washington St., but, such homes are generic to many posts.
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Reply #4 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 5:31pm
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If the number is a "3", the unit could be the 3rd U.S. Infantry at Ft. Snelling (Minn.) in the 1890s.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 8:27pm
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The last number on the bag is a 9. I was able to photo shop the pic and feel confident it is a nine. Beyond that the numbers/letters before the 9 are not discernible.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 9:06pm
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I believe the most significant number would be one positioned with the 'crossed-rifles'.

That would be the U.S. Infantry regiment's number.

On SAW era cap badges, the regiment number is above the 'crossed rifles' and the company letter, below.

However, in this photo of stenciled haversacks, I cannot tell if it is a number or letter, below the crossed rifles.

(The numbers at the bottom of the bag, below the 'U.S.', may be a rack or I.D. number).

Attached unrelated photo shows the layout used on period cap badges.
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Reply #7 - Apr 17th, 2018 at 10:08pm
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Maddening .... you can almost read this crap!

(Update - I now believe Regiment number is directly below the crossed-rifles and Company letter is above).
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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 4:35pm
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Thanks a lot BR... Spent half a day internet searching for photos and information!  Actually I'm having fun and have learned quite a bit about the SpanAm War.

Found this information that you might find interesting.  The pamphlet is provided by the Combat Studies Institute Press
Fort Leavenworth, KS and is titled Gathering at the
"Golden Gate: Mobilizing for War in the Philippines, 1898"
by Stephen D. Coats

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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2018 at 6:22pm
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'Local Boy' - Interesting content & details about mobilization for the Philippine Campaign.

Some of the illustrations and photographs display the survival of drill and tactics used in the Civil War and before.

Concentrating men, to 'defend' prominently displayed 'Colors', may have looked good on the Parade Ground, but, was downright 'suicidal' in the new era of smokeless powder and high velocity jacketed projectiles.

Being an Alaskan, I am sure you have seen this photo of the 24th Inf. (Co. L), at Dyea, Alaska, in 1899. They relieved the 14th. Infantry at this post. However, the decline of Dyea and a forest fire resulted in Co. L moving over to Skagway.
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Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 5:32pm
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Thanks for sharing the photos and in formation Chuck!

Actually I haven't seen the photo you posted... Bit of history I wasn't aware of.

Probably sent to keep the infamous Jefferson Randolph "Soapy" Smith II and his Soap Suds Gang in check.

Interesting how segregated military units were a big part of Alaska's history.  i.e. Segregated units played a major part toward the construction of the ALCAN highway.
  
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Reply #11 - Apr 21st, 2018 at 6:20pm
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Here is a 4th of July Parade in Skagway, Alaska, 1899.
  
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