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Questionable front sight
Jul 21st, 2018 at 5:32pm
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Is it just me?

On another forum a while back, photos were posted of a very proper looking U.S. model 1899 carbine.

This was the final picture posted. It shows the front-sight base, with the carbine front-sight protector removed.
(The new owner described the barrel "as being a tad over 22 inches", but, I am not sure he measured it properly)?

Something looks wrong to me.

IMHO -  This may be a real carbine barrel, but, I think an original front-sight base has been "re-attached".

It appears to me, there is the remains of a base brazed into the Springfield Armory barrel dovetail. It looks like a replacement base brazed on top of that.

Head Scratcher!
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #1 - Jul 21st, 2018 at 6:46pm
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Looks original to me, but all the dirt, dust and debris obscuring the joint makes it hard to tell - as does shadow on near side of stud.

Why on earth do folks have to play with sight protectors - on, off, on, off . . .?
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #2 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 5:39pm
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Could an 03 band sight had been mounted and the original sight reattached by a skilled welder?
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #3 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 7:05pm
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Parashooter has a keen eye and is usually correct.

Likely, this front-sight just needs a good cleaning with a toothbrush and some Hoppe's to remove fuzz and gunk.

The camera lens has probably made a straight machined 'line' look a bit curved.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2018 at 11:01pm
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What I can make out of the dovetail at the front says original to me.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #5 - Jul 26th, 2018 at 1:28am
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I was suspicious of what appeared to be a high and curving 'ridge'.

Upon reflection and consideration of Parashooter's and your opinion, I now think it an illusion, caused by hardened cosmoline, debris, and 'lens curvature'.

Sometimes I shoot my mouth off too much ... think I'll take some pills for it!
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #6 - Jul 27th, 2018 at 4:21pm
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The sight looks right.  The ware pattern on the side could be from a sight cover.  The wear area only goes part way around the barrel.
Would like to know if the blade is marked with a C.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #7 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 3:43pm
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The width of the slot for the site blade was slightly wider on a replacement base I used.
Maybe it was just the one I had received but I had to form my own blade.

It also had a more robust exterior dimension in the radius at the front and rear of the post and was slightly wider.

My amateur opinion is that is a replacement base from what I can observe from the images. It's an opinion only, hope I'm wrong.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #8 - Jul 28th, 2018 at 4:40pm
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'Doco' - A little bit of black 'gasket-seal' nicely firms up a loose Krag front-sight blade in a sloppy base. It eliminates wobble and can always be 'un-done'.

I rather regret starting this thread. Sight is probably correct. Just looks wrong because of dried goop, lint, scratched finish, and photo distortion.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #9 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 12:38pm
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I would like to see this scrubed hard with oooo steel wool. If the joint looks invisible/nearly invisible, well then, its good but looking at the photo as it appears here I would've considered it bogus, but hey, that's me.
  
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Re: Questionable front sight
Reply #10 - Jul 29th, 2018 at 12:58pm
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A toothbrush and some Hoppe's would probably clean up the sight, in question, nicely. (I now think it's correct, but, greasy & dusty, which made it suspect).

Attached are photos of a Krag model 1898 rifle and model 1899 carbine front-sights to show rather typical appearance of sight base attachment.

IMHO - With short Krag barrels, (22" & 26"), this is the first place to look for 'mischief' and fakery.
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