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does 1899 krag carbine 3rd model have more value..
Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:36am
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M1899 CARBINE FIRST MODEL, 1896 9000 MANUFACTURED
M1899 CARBINE SECOND MODEL, 1898 16000 MANUFACTURED
M1899 CARBINE THIRD MODEL, 1901 2000 MANUFACTURED

my sn says 1901 made
so I assume that has to be a 3rd model??
  
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Re: does 1899 krag carbine 3rd model have more value..
Reply #1 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 1:40am
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345302 sn#
  
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Re: does 1899 krag carbine 3rd model have more value..
Reply #2 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 3:00am
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'chadaz34' - Welcome to the KCA Forum.

I don't know your source of information. It sounds like the "Bowers site" which is not to be trusted.
As far as I know, there is no validity to 1st model, 2nd model, 3rd model terminology for model 1899 carbines.

The model 1899 marked receivers were built into carbines. Carbine, #345302, was likely assembled around August to October, 1901. Krags were not assembled in numerical order. The numbered receivers went into parts bins and were rather randomly pulled out for assembly.

Carbines were produced periodically in batches.

There is a complicated story of sight-model changes to model 1899 carbines.

Your carbine, #345302, was likely built with the model 1901 carbine rear-sight and a regular 'cocking-piece' (and not, the knurled 'head-less' version). The original hand-guard was likely the same as that for the rifle with a 1901 sight.

Eventually a hand-guard with a 'lump' sight-protector was built for the carbine with the 1901 sight.

A model 1899 carbine could have had its hand-guard updated or its rear-sight and hand-guard updated at various times in its service.

Either a model 1901 or 1902 carbine rear-sight is credible on your model 1899 carbine. (There are 'sight specific' hand-guards needed for those sights).

In regards to your original question as to "value":

IMHO - most variations of the model 1899 carbine will be of nearly identical value. Condition of wood, metal, bore, and 'appeal of appearance' are more significant in fixing value.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 2:08pm
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thank you for the info ill post some pix.. gun is in mint shape but the stock witch is also mint has the cartouches worn down.. wondering if somebody boned it..
could have been replaced
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2018 at 5:04pm
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Pictures often beget a lot more information. Multiple clear close-ups reveal a lot more than full-length shots.

Many Krag rifles and carbines underwent rebuilding or refurbishment in the course of their service. Arms were disassembled and parts were refinished, reused, and switched in the process.
  
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