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Oct 20th, 2018 at 2:12pm
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I am new member, thanks. I am a 30-40 krag shooter at local military matches. I joined to ask questions, is there a no drill peep sight that will go on 1895 Carbine? It’s a good shooter, but my eyes are not happy with the notch sight. Thanks again.
  
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Re: Peep sights
Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 2:40pm
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Not that it matters on the no-drill sights, but do you have a military carbine or a sporterized military rifle? Inquiring minds want to know. Somebody else will have the info on the sights.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 2:54pm
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It is a military carbine
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 3:36pm
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Forgive me for my manners, I'm not typically on the leading edge of welcoming new members, but welcome. Somebody with more knowledge will give you an answer on your sight. Most members here, including myself, go goo-goo ga-ga over pictures should you have a chance to post.  Grin We may be able to give you more info on your gun if you haven't researched much yourself.
  
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Re: Peep sights
Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:08pm
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'Jim30-40' - Welcome to the KCA Forum.

FWIW - There is not a model 1895 U.S. Krag carbine. There are model 1896 carbines that are dated "1895".

Both Pacific, (K1 & K2), and Redfield, (model #70K & model #102K), made 'no-drill' receiver sights for the U.S. Krag.

These sights require the removal of the Magazine Cut-Off Lever, (a reversible process), since they make use of the hole and machined area for the Cut-Off. These sights fit all U.S. Krag models.

The Pacific K2 has target knobs and vernier adjustments.

The Redfield 70 KT has 'target knobs' and the 70 KH has 'hunter' knobs. Both have vernier adjustments.

The downside of the vernier versions of the Redfield and Pacific sights is that there is no 'quick release' of the 'elevation slide'. The slide has to be laboriously elevated to clear the bolt for removal. (IMHO - It is simpler just to take the whole sight off of the rifle or carbine).

I prefer the simpler 'non-vernier' version of both makers sights. The 'elevation staff' can be quickly 'un-tensioned' and moved, so the bolt can be removed. These sights have a 'set-screw'. If used, this allows an easy return to the 'sighted-in' setting.

Some Krag owners prefer the vernier adjustment sights.

The Redfield 'no-drill' sights can introduce a roughness in cartridge-feed, because the 'receiver hole' for the magazine cut-off is left empty. Cartridge rims lightly snag on an 'open trough' in the receiver wall. This can be filled with a shaft, contoured, like the cut-off shaft or a glob of 'Bondo' filler, smoothed to fit .

Photos: 1. Various 'no-drill' sights. 2. Tip of Krag magazine cut-off, in 'cartridge feed' position. (NOTE - 'wear line' in metal finish from movement of cartridge rim along edge of receiver and cut-off shaft).
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:38pm
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Working on pics. Seem to be too big to send. Thanks for info. Any info on Rice sights?
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 5:12pm
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I have seen a lot of "Rice" sights on 'Sportered' Krags. I have never used one. They always looked crude to me, but, I'm sure they worked well for 'woods hunting'.

(BTW - Photos need to be below 768 KB to attach in posts on KCA).

Photos from some old Rice literature, I accumulated:
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 7:28pm
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Sounds like, I’ll keep eye out for pacific K1, then Redfield if nothing else, thanks. Trying to figure out how to shrink my pics.
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:19pm
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Reply #9 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:23pm
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I edit and store photographs on my computer's 'hard drive' with "Microsoft Office 2010".

If a picture has too many pixels, I edit it by choosing "compress picture for documents" and 'save it' as an edited copy, by adding 'ed' to the original name. (I save the original 'without changes').

Hey that's a pretty nice carbine. Looks like there's an area of wood damage above the 'saddle-ring bar'. (That could probably be nicely restored).
If you share the serial number, guys will check their Springfield Research Services (SRS) data.

I played with your picture a little bit.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:29pm
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Got it. I’m on iPhone. Emailed it to myself as small pic, then saved. That worked
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:48pm
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There is damage there, but doesn’t effect shooting. Number is 28,XXX. Something in that range
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 8:52pm
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I shoot light loads in it, 9.6 grains Unique, cowboy bullets
  
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Reply #13 - Oct 21st, 2018 at 12:10am
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There are a lot of documented U.S. model 1896 carbines in the 28K range.

The K1 Pacific sight is a nice little unit. They show up from time to time on Ebay. Depending on height, the 'peep' sight may require a taller front-sight blade.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 24th, 2018 at 1:57pm
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Well, I am now  Smiley on the hunt
  
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