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boomer KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 73 Location: PA Joined: Jun 18^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Peep sights Reply #15 - Oct 24^th, 2018 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	Jim, Welcome to the forum! A have a Krag sporter that is equipped with a Pacific K1 sight. The sight is a good choice. I've got a problem with some notched sights also ... using this peep sight is a pleasure.


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Joe L. KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Dedham,MA Joined: Oct 27^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Peep sights Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 5:30pm	Print Post
	On my 98 Carbine is a peep flip up sight mounted on the back of the original sight. It looks original because a very close pro writer for a great gun mag. has one exactly like mine and mine and his are the same military sights and his is a trapdoor carbine made about the same time in 1898. To be honest, I've been trying to find out anything on these sights and even my friend Pete comes up blank, Why, I have no idea!! I have 2 Krags, a 98 rifle and a 98 carbine and a 1902 bayonet all 3 in amazing shape. New to THIS site but was member back in 2011 with a envelope from William Butts and my membership receipt, drifted away due to other weapons in my collection needing research a never ending quest! Joe L.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Peep sights Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 6:32pm	Print Post
	"Joe L." - Welcome back to the KCA Forum. The "flip-up Peep", that you mention being present on your model 1898 Krag carbine, is found on most Krag model 1902 rear-sights. The feature was also found on the first type of rear-sight that was used on the "Rod-Bayonet" model 1903 Springfield Rifle. This sight is described in Mallory's, Brophy's, and Joe Poyer's books on the Krag. Per Franklin Mallory, ("The Krag Rifle Story", 2nd. edition, page 130): ".... There are two basic models of the 1902 sight, the second differing from the first by addition of a sliding peep aperture. This device was commonly called a "Sergeant Peep", which was a misnomer because it was used by privates as well as sergeants. It was designed by Springfield Armory's veteran marksman, F. R. Bull. Few Model 1902 sights were issued without the peep plate". IMHO - Although the 'peep plate' is quite common on Model 1902 Krag sights and the early (and discarded) rear-sight for the Model 1903 Springfield, I have never seen one on a 'Trap-Door' Springfield. (My hunch is that it is likely some craftsman's 'innovation' and not official Springfield Armory work). Attached photos: 1. 1902 'peep plate', 2. Graphic from early 1903 Springfield Manual.


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psteinmayer KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 2391 Location: Ypsilanti, Michgan Joined: Aug 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Peep sights Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 8:43pm	Print Post
	In my humble opinion, the Sgt. Peep is a wonderful addition to the 1902 sight, which is my favorite of the Krag rear sights. The peep is approximately 0.04 in diameter, which is painfully small considering the relief from ones eye. However, per CMP rules, you can enlarge this peep for competition use. You can go about 0.07 before you're in danger of running out of metal to drill... but that makes a world of difference!!! I've actually built my plate up slightly using JB Weld, and enlarged to 0.1 for match shooting. This gives me an excellent sight picture!


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Joe L. KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 9 Location: Dedham,MA Joined: Oct 27^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Peep sights Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	Thanks people for the peep sight info.I have 4 Trapdoors and one is a rod bayonet rifle but 3 have Buffington sights which could not fix this sight, the 4th is a officer 1873 model with a tang sight. All 4 are 45-70 and the other rifle ( I have 2 rifles, a carbine these three are 1884, and as said the officer model is 1873 ). I 'm sorry about wandering away from my Krags and the issues with them, but the military in that time period were all in the same ball park. I have a pic my close friend now in Arizona sent me about his sported trapdoor, and the sight is the same as my Krag. I'm really glad I've found the way back to this group of people, for I've been involved with some other sites but KRAGGERS are great, no doubt about it!!! I've been collector for 40 plus years and it never gets stale, for I collect many, many, different makes and models for they all need a good protective home!!! Joe L.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Peep sights Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2018 at 11:14pm	Print Post
	If a model 1873 'trap-door' Springfield has a model 1902 Krag rear-sight on it, I am sure someone has been tinkering! However, the first type of 1903 Springfield, ('rod-bayonet' model in .30-03 cal.), did have a rear-sight modeled after the 1902 rear-sight (for the Krag). In fact, many of the surplus parts from the discontinued (early 1903 Springfield) rear-sight were used at armories to repair damaged Krag sights.
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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Peep sights Reply #21 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Found a pretty good Rice peep, trouble is, had to get the gun it was mounted on, too!


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Peep sights Reply #22 - Nov 12^th, 2018 at 10:05pm	Print Post
	Now you're learning!


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Peep sights Reply #23 - Nov 17^th, 2018 at 3:37pm	Print Post
	I liked the Rice sights, when I could still see the front sight! I have to scope my Krags to see their true accuracy potential.


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