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1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun (By Joe L)
Oct 28th, 2018 at 2:28pm
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Tried to move this as a whole bit it didn't work as I had hoped I believe all information is here though
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butlers rangers, I'm new to this site as it is now. Was a member when William Butts was involved, talked with him back in 2010, but things came about that distracted me from the site after having got a  1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun that not even Jim Supica could ID. I did join the Rem. coll. Soc.but my 1875 is just as complicated as my 98 rifle and what you brought up about the peep sight and other statements I should have remembered about the usage of the Krag up to WWI, thank you for the refresher course for my research goes on a lot for it's large and many are truly unique. I'm not really tech. savy and my kids and friends remind me of it all the time. I'll try to figure out pics but it's something I'll have to work on for I have NO clue how to do it!   Joe L.
 
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Re: Military and possibly National Guard issued rifles
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battles rangers, If you wouldn't mind drifting to a Rem. mystery that has got some very knowledgeable  people stumped. If any of the Butts family move this or who ever it may be, don't worry it would put this good org. on the map for many people are stumped!! This 1875 Rem. is in .44 cal. rimfire copper case stamped on the base with a" U " ( for UMC ). But Jim Supica of the Rem. soc. said the cal. was wrong!!! It specs. out as a Henry rifle .44, but it should have a "H" on the base not a "U" and to confuse even further it has a "ROUND" nose bullet, which we all know could never be for a HENRY OR A WINCHESTER. I GOT THIS GUN FROM MY LAST WWII FRIEND AND FFL WHO PASSED AWAY 5YRS AGO. This gun came with 26 copper ca
  
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Re: 1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun
Reply #1 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 2:30pm
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This gun came with 26 copper case rounds all having a deep green patina on one side only as if it sat on the ground for ages. The gun itself also was pitted badly on the left side only the right side in decent shape and the action is perfect, bore OK. The grips are OK even the bad left side is all there!! I know this isn't for our site but I've had this gun for many years and I always ask any body with our love of these incredible machines for help, I only wish it could talk for this gun may not look pristine but it would actually fire if I didn't think the rounds were so unique I would!!    Joe L.
  
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Re: 1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun
Reply #2 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 2:32pm
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Joe L. wrote Yesterday at 5:34pm:
"butlers rangers, I'm new to this site as it is now. Was a member when William Butts was involved, talked with him back in 2010, but things came about that distracted me from the site after having got a  1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun that not even Jim Supica could ID. I did join the Rem. coll. Soc.but my 1875 is just as complicated as my 98 rifle and what you brought up about the peep sight and other statements I should have remembered about the usage of the Krag up to WWI, thank you for the refresher course for my research goes on a lot for it's large and many are truly unique. I'm not really tech. savy and my kids and friends remind me of it all the time. I'll try to figure out pics but it's something I'll have to work on for I have NO clue how to do it!   Joe L."

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Actually, Union Metallic made ammo marked as “44 Henry (Flat) into the early 1900’s.  The bullets were round shouldered with flat tips.  They were for both Henry and Winchester Model 1866.  The later boxes showed both the UMC and Remington name after the merger of the two.  I have seen what appear to be near center indentations on fired cases - but not alot.  Since the 44 Remington was such a rare caliber, I suppose it’s possible that, by 1900, someone might have tried the RF rounds on the off chance that they would work since the CF was out of production.  Maybe some did work which is why you’re left with some valuable “leftovers”.
  
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Re: 1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun
Reply #3 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 2:33pm
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Not my area of knowledge, but, there were .44 Henry rim-fire cartridges made with round nosed bullets and different maker head-stamps.

There were Model 1875 Remington revolvers made for rim-fire cartridges. (.46 rim-fire)

Is it possible someone just put a "rim-fire" hammer on a center-fire 1875 Remington?
  
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Re: 1875 Rem. .44 cal wheel gun (By Joe L)
Reply #4 - Oct 28th, 2018 at 7:18pm
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To ALL you good people, thanks for the help for the Rem. 75. The rounds .44 cal. RF fit perfectly and all 26 are intact and came in a .44 cal. box which is not original to these rounds.                                     Since I can go to another one of my TOYS in this section with a WWI M-95 straight pull Steyr in 8X50mm found in Caserto Italy and brought back by an American Ambulance Driver in 1919. The label on the stock below the left side of the receiver is worn away in areas of the ID of this driver and the area in Asiago when the Austrians attacked Italy in the mountains 1914 and 1915 and on. This rifle is also in great shape with perfect action and must have been found in a building or someplace out of the weather. I have 8X57mm rounds that are to long which obviously means it was never re-chambered stateside to the NEWER 8X57mm and remains original in the 8X50mm which I can't get here in this moronic state. The name of this person is Burroughs but his first name is worn away and his Ambulance company, American Ambulance Service I can't find anything on it. And that's only a few of my mystery's that exist in my collection! I know a lot of collectors don't care about the past history of their TOYS, but for me it's for the future of my girls and my grandkids this is for them and to hopefully help preserve these incredible machines of history for the future. They're way to important for posterity not to be concerned, these wood and steel marvels need our help, just take a look at Australia, I wonder how Garands, Enfields, and God knows how many other weapons were destroyed by the Gun Grabber morons,WHAT A SHAME!!! Not here no way, no way.Joe
  
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