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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	very bad news Dec 17^th, 2018 at 12:18am	Print Post
	Jack Scwartz/Parts for antique guns is no longer making Krag wood, this is very bad for me, going to really put a crimp on a favorite hobby


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Suredan KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 46 Location: Texas Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2018 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #1 - Dec 17^th, 2018 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	I had emailed him and he said it was a permanent situation. Not good news at all. I wonder if he made them or if they were outsourced. Would be nice if someone could acquire the plans/equipment and put them back into production.


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Jason60chev KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 61 Location: Tampa, Florida Joined: Dec 7^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 10:11am	Print Post
	Just sent an email to them, asking that very question.


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Jason60chev KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 61 Location: Tampa, Florida Joined: Dec 7^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 2:26pm	Print Post
	I received a reply from him. Said that the HGs were made on proprietary in house machinery from originals, as were the barrel springs. Health issues preventing further work. AFter hearing that, kinda felt selfish for asking about it. Now we just need a woodworker who wants to invest in original HGs, machinery and copy them. Jason60chev wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 10:11am: Just sent an email to them, asking that very question.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:49pm	Print Post
	I read someplace else that East Taylor LLC was also (unless that is Mr. Schwartz?) stopping production. Guess the value of originals is going to go up.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: very bad news Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Dick - Both names are the same concern. I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock'). The price of originals has been climbing for some time. Schwartz/East Taylor-LLC had decent stuff to work with.


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boomer KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 73 Location: PA Joined: Jun 18^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 6:28pm	Print Post
	Wow, I just got one a couple of months ago, apparently just in the nick of time. That is sad news. butlersrangers wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:56pm: .... I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock').... I suspect so. It took me 5 to 6 weeks to get the one I ordered and S&S was showing out of stock the entire time. I believe one or two of their hand guards became available right at the same time I received my order.


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Kerz KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 307 Location: KY Joined: Jan 13^th, 2017 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 10:49am	Print Post
	butlersrangers wrote on Dec 18^th, 2018 at 4:56pm: Dick - Both names are the same concern. I wonder if S&S Firearms also got their hand-guards from this vendor? (They are currently 'out of stock'). The price of originals has been climbing for some time. Schwartz/East Taylor-LLC had decent stuff to work with. Butlersrangers, Yes that was my understanding, that East Taylor sold to S&S. Vic

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blfrankjr KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 8 Location: Georgia Joined: Aug 5^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	I expect the question comes down to how much are you willing to pay for a reproduction hand guard. They would not be cheap to make, especially for such limited demand. I doubt you could have them made for what Mr. Schwartz charged. So would folks pay nearer what it costs for an original to have a reproduction made?


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: very bad news Reply #9 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 4:00pm	Print Post
	S&S didn't always use East Taylor. I have one that I got from them that was as light as balsa, and drank stain about the same. Come to think of it, I've not seen that thing for awhile. Wonder what I did with it!


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Local Boy KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 462 Location: Mat-Su Valley, Alaska Joined: Sep 24^th, 2015 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #10 - Dec 20^th, 2018 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	Wish I would have known about this unfortunate circumstance earlier! I was just down in Georgia, about 3-4 hour drive from where they were produced. Sure would have liked to have seen their operation. Well, regardless, I wish the proprietor the best of health.


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Ned Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 525 Location: western catskills NY Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #11 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 12:07am	Print Post
	I have never delt with him but Larry Price sell forend extensions on GunBroker for $55 and you can "buy it now" for that. The quality looks good in the pictures. If anyone buys one please let us know the details. If a deal goes well I will put this in the parts sticky (You need to *Login* to view media files and links)


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #12 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 12:23am	Print Post
	Ned, Looks like he has sold a number of these. I need one so I might spring for one and check quality. Looks like the splice is behind the rear band. Getting the color to match is the hard job! Part of the fun of restoration.


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #13 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 5:16am	Print Post
	Mr. Price's (Pryce's?) handguards may, or may not, be OK, but I'd be VERY careful in any transactions with him. He was involved in pimping a very suspect BoOF rifle a few years ago and was NOT at all helpful, or up front, in his correspondence. Personally, I wouldn't deal with him.


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Jason60chev KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 61 Location: Tampa, Florida Joined: Dec 7^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: very bad news Reply #14 - Jan 7^th, 2019 at 10:54am	Print Post
	Numrich...Gun Parts Crops, carries a repair fore ends, too..... (You need to *Login* to view media files and links) Whig wrote on Jan 7^th, 2019 at 12:23am: Ned, Looks like he has sold a number of these. I need one so I might spring for one and check quality. Looks like the splice is behind the rear band. Getting the color to match is the hard job! Part of the fun of restoration.


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