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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Small attachment ring? Dec 18^th, 2018 at 9:07pm	Print Post
	New to this, can you tell me purpose of small ring on side plate? It’s on sporterized 1896, thanks.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #1 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 9:47pm	Print Post
	I'm thinking some #%^&%$#% was trying to make a bastardized saddle ring carbine.

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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #2 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 9:53pm	Print Post
	So not original in any way? Thanks, may look for another side plate


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Mark_Daiute KCA Forum Member KCA Official Member Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 242 Location: Newcastle Maine USA Joined: Jul 11^th, 2003 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #3 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 10:15pm	Print Post
	meantime show us more photos of the rifle! Mark


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #4 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Yah, more photos! Krag, #68900, is a "SRS hit". Frank Mallory documented it as a model 1896 carbine, turned in by the 6th Cavalry, 04/11/1900. I have never seen a 'staple' attached to a Krag side-plate before. Almost certainly, this was done by or for a private owner. What type of stock is on this Krag now? The original model 1896 carbine stock would have had a carbine ring & bar on a plate at the stock wrist, just behind the magazine cut-off lever. BTW - A replacement side-plate will need to be for the model 1896 action. The model 1898 side-plate is too thick to fit at the front 'tendon'.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #5 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 11:05pm	Print Post
	Here you go "Red Ryder". "With a Compass in the Stock and a Thing that Tells Time", you'll be ready for Christmas! (p.s. - It looks like your extractor & bolt-collar have been fitted with a Leroy Rice 'peep-sight' for Hunting). Welcome to the KCA forum, Jim3040 ... and don't shoot your eye out!
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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #6 - Dec 18^th, 2018 at 11:57pm	Print Post
	Small ring is on sporter with Rice peep sight. I now own two Krags. Can you give me history on second one? Appears to be original.


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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #7 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 12:00am	Print Post
	Second Krag


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #8 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 1:27am	Print Post
	What is that? 23823? What does the left side of all that read? -------- Springfield Armory 23823 Would be great if you had a couple shots of the rear and front sights. Culpeper

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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #9 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 2:51am	Print Post
	I can not read the number, with certainty, on your second Krag. The picture quality is too poor. If the number is 28823, drop everything and immediately go out and buy a 'Super Lotto' ticket! FWIW - #28823 is also in SRS data: "model 1896 carbine, 06/14/1900, 9th Cav., turned in". The 9th Cavalry was a famous Black regiment. (Only a small percentage of the almost 1/2 million U. S. Krag serial numbers were found in official documents, by Frank Mallory and others, who were working on the data collection). Please confirm the serial number and post some better quality photographs. (Clear close-ups of front-sight/muzzle area, rear-sight/top & side views, stock forearm and wrist area, any metal or wood markings). BTW - Your first Krag appears to be a model 1896 carbine that had its Stock updated to the longer 1899 style, during an armory rebuild. Some civilian altered the replacement stock by adding a pistol grip and 'tossed' the carbine rear-sight and hand-guard. This Krag carbine retains its late style carbine barrel-band and band retaining-spring. The 'long forearm' 1899 style replacement stock for the model 1896 carbine dispensed with the saddle ring & bar.
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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #10 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 3:40am	Print Post
	On gun, looks like 28,828. Pictures tomorrow


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #11 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 4:31am	Print Post
	No SRS "hit" for Krag #28828. But, that number is surrounded by a large number of model 1896 carbines in the SRS data. Closest neighbors are #28823 and #28831. Both are model 1896 carbines turned in by 9th Cavalry on 06/14/1900. No assumptions can be made on numbers being 'close'. Because it is not listed pretty much guarantees that #28828 did not go to the 9th Cavalry. Check your number very carefully with a good magnifying glass. It is very easy to misread Krag serial numbers. (In my experience, 3's, 6's, and 8's often get misread).


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #12 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 2:03pm	Print Post
	Back to carbine No. 1 - "Ole Deer Getter". (#68900) It appears previous owner(s) had success, at least six times, in harvesting Bambi. The six 'notches' along the forearm are kind of 'classic'. I love this 'altered carbine'.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #13 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 2:27pm	Print Post
	..... and Krag No. 2. - I remember from your earlier posts. You really want to study that 28xxx serial number with a magnifier and get it certain!


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Jim3040 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 27 Location: Upstate New York Joined: Oct 20^th, 2018 Gender:	Re: Small attachment ring? Reply #14 - Dec 19^th, 2018 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	Second Krag


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