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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #15 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:12am	Print Post
	Sorry about the poor quality pictures.


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #16 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:16am	Print Post
	Also sorry about the poor spelling. I think its past my bed time.


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Parashooter KCA Forum Member Offline Kragmudgeon Posts: 514 Location: Connecticut Joined: Feb 4^th, 2010	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #17 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:25am	Print Post
	For comparison, here's one I sold a few years back ($600+). Some folks I respect judged it an authentic example of the early '96 carbine sight -


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #18 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 11:05am	Print Post
	Another question I would have is that if this is a faked 1896 rear sight, did the seller know this and did you pay extra for the rear sight as an original? If it is not authentic, you can ask for a refund and the seller should honor it. It's up to you depending on how you purchased it and the honesty of all involved. If you were told or suspected it wasn't real, that's a different story. I have a couple 1896 carbine sights that are in good condition but authentic. Condition isn't the key issue- it's the details that count. Post more pictures of it so we can see better. Also, your front sight cover looks interesting. It may be a carbine front sight cover that should be marked with a "c" on one side. They are worth $150 or more (if not faked also!) I learn something new all the time here!


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #19 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 2:35pm	Print Post
	The carbine was not represented as an original. The owner had died. The family knows little about his collection. I do not know if he did this or purchased it this way. I am guessing this is the way he got it. I do not know what he paid for it.


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #20 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 2:40pm	Print Post
	Well, you have two original and authentic Krag 1896 carbine rear sights here to compare. As Butlers has pointed out, if the fonts or positioning of any of the details of the sight are not exactly the same as the two authentic ones shown, you can consider it a fake. People will buy it but it should not be misrepresented as authentic. I would never buy something I knew is a fake to put on one of my carbines to make it "correct". Other people might but few who use this sight regularly. Good luck. Thanks for sharing. It's always a good lesson to look at the details closely. (Including me!)


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #21 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 3:52pm	Print Post
	Pic. Of sight


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #22 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 3:53pm	Print Post
	Side of sight.


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #23 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 3:54pm	Print Post
	Sight hood.


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #24 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 3:56pm	Print Post
	The knurled knob on this sight I different than parashooters. This one is probably a fake.


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olderthansome KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 131 Location: Michigan Joined: Mar 10^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #25 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:18pm	Print Post
	No one has asked yet, but, if you don't mind our asking, what is the serial number. The carbine looks interesting and, if it is in an appropriate number range, it is still quite valuable as an 1898 Carbine. As Whig said, there are 1896 Carbines out there with rifle sights, they are nevertheless, real 1896 Carbines and worth more than the rifle versions. The incorrect sight would be a deduction from the value, but hardly a disqualifier for the rest of the piece. Even with an inappropriate number, carbine parts are always worth something more and, unless the whole thing is a fake or a "put together" like the one I bought when I was a novice, the sum of the parts will come to a happy result.


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #26 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	I like the sight hood. It has the "c" mark on it (if this isn't faked also!) and looks complete from the one picture. These are desirable. I see them for sale infrequently for around $150-200. The sight needs better lighting with close ups so we can learn more about it. I can't see the "c" or the 20 well in this picture. If you can, please post pictures of the rest of the carbine. Thanks.


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #27 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Serial no. 156484. 1898 date on receiver. I paid $350.00 for the rifle. That seemed to be the going rate for a sporter , shooter. It came with the sight hood, oiler and cleaning rod. It has a clean bore. If it shoots well I will be happy with it. Do you think the stock is original ? It has a saddle ring and 1898 jsa stamp. Thanks, kc


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #28 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	There are some pics of the carbine on page 1.


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King carp KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 296 Joined: Apr 1^st, 2019 Gender:	Re: Help with rear sight Reply #29 - Jun 22^nd, 2019 at 4:37pm	Print Post
	I know it is a long shot but in the Joe Poyer book on page 239 footnote no. 5 mentions 1898 carbines observed in this serial no. Range. I did not buy this krag assuming it was a real 1898 carbine. I bought it as a shooter.


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