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Original 1898 carbine or not? (Read 9095 times)

Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #15 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 5:14pm	Print Post
	Rear sights on 1896 carbines from KCA pictures:


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #16 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 9:30pm	Print Post
	Sorry, my mistake. Mr Culpeper is right. Whig's rear-sight is installed correctly. I just got confused with the carbine lying on that Razzle-Dazzle carpet. IMHO - The OP's hand-guard appears a bit too far forward. This likely is tilting the top of the model 1899 barrel-band to the front, preventing the barrel-band from properly seating.
	« Last Edit: Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:36pm by butlersrangers »

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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #17 - Aug 19^th, 2019 at 10:41pm	Print Post
	Culpeper wrote on Aug 19^th, 2019 at 3:50am: Do you have a close up pic of the left side of the receiver? Maybe 1898 is really 1899 under good light. Found a pic I took of the model number when we found the gun in her closet while helping her pack to sell her house. As far as the other pics requested I will get them up as soon as possible. The gun is still at my Aunts house so I cannot take pictures.


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #18 - Aug 20^th, 2019 at 12:50am	Print Post
	Thanks for the picture. Definitely NOT M1899 carbine. Still need, when you get a chance, a picture of the front sight and barrel measurement. Thanks.


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Culpeper KCA Forum Member Offline Posts: 904 Location: Right Coast of Africa Joined: Mar 30^th, 2005	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #19 - Aug 21^st, 2019 at 1:58pm	Print Post
	There is no mistaking the number on that receiver. I just had to ask because some times it is a real nightmare to read whether it is an 8 or a 9.

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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #20 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	got a bunch more pictures today. bare with me while I get them all up in case you just see this first post. With the bolt closed the barrel measures 22in. took the butt plate off and the spot for the cleaning rods are there. Was disappointed that there where no rides inside but was cool non the less waiting to see what was behind the plate. Now that I know how everything works (watched a bunch of you tube), the safety and everything else seems to function as it should.


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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #21 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 5:48pm	Print Post
	Front sight pics


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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #22 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	Pictures look huge on my computer. hope its not that way for everyone. Sorry if it is.


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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #23 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 5:58pm	Print Post
	Here are some more of the barrel band


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Dick Hosmer KCA Official Member Offline Collector of Springfield Arms, 1865-1915 Posts: 1862 Location: Northern California Joined: Nov 20^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #24 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	Muzzle and sight look legit, but that s/n is just not possible - that HAS to be a replaced receiver, or an "assembled" gun. It did NOT come out of the ORIGINAL assembly process (almost slipped up and said "down the line") as you see it today. Three choices: 1. A VERY unusual arsenal, or in-service, "repair" 2. An "in-house" Bubba 3. An outhouse Bubba (including Bannerman et al) Back in the day, they were TOOLS - and when they were broken they were repaired -nobody cared about 21st century "collector originality".


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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #25 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 6:02pm	Print Post
	Here are some butt pics


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MikeyC KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 11 Location: Plainfield Illinois Joined: Aug 18^th, 2019 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #26 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 6:04pm	Print Post
	over all length of the gun is 41 1/4


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #27 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	You do have a legitimate carbine barrel with a Springfield Armory installed front-sight base. Your front-sight blade appears to be the correct height for the model 1896 carbine rear-sight. Your blade may be stamped with a small "C"; this is stamped low, (out of sight and hidden by the base). If it were mine, I would put a regular Krag butt-plate on it (and keep the early one with the carbine as part of the mystery carbine story).


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Whig KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1324 Location: Balt MD Joined: Sep 24^th, 2016 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #28 - Aug 25^th, 2019 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	You have a great Krag carbine, however it got this way, and can be proud of owning it. The M1896C rear sight is a fantastic part of this carbine. Much rarer than a lot of people realize. Many authentic arsenal M1896 carbines need the authentic sight. You can't find them for sale and if you ever see one sold separately, they usually go for $600 or more now. So, thanks for sharing. The extra large pictures are fine because they are clear and crisp, better than blurry AND big. Ready now to shoot it and enjoy.


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Ned Butts KCA Forum Admin KCA Official Member Offline Krag enthusiast! Posts: 525 Location: western catskills NY Joined: Apr 1^st, 2002 Gender:	Re: Original 1898 carbine or not? Reply #29 - Aug 26^th, 2019 at 1:16am	Print Post
	That butt plate is interesting


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