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Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes (Read 5874 times)

carbon outlaw KCA Forum Member Offline carbon outlaw Posts: 209 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2014	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #15 - Nov 11^th, 2019 at 9:15pm	Print Post
	OK found one "Low Scope Safety Krag" on ebay ...


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #16 - Nov 11^th, 2019 at 10:41pm	Print Post
	I have never messed with the Buehler safety-lever for the Krag. I am curious if it requires alteration to the Bolt-Sleeve or Striker-Rod? (I do have a Buehler Safety for the 1903 Springfield. It does not require original parts alteration. FWIW - I am not real keen on the 1903 Buehler Safety. It makes Springfield bolt/striker disassembly a lot trickier).


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FredC KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 759 Location: Dewees, Texas Joined: May 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #17 - Nov 11^th, 2019 at 11:12pm	Print Post
	Just asking would the 3/4 J2.5 weaver clear the safety since it is smaller? I have one on my Model 67 Winchester. My dad originally had it on his 1917 Enfield. The eye piece is less than 1" in diameter and can work with about a 6 inch eye relief. Probably not as bright as some, I did take the lenses out 40 years ago and cleaned them. Did not have any nitrogen to fill the tube so I used propane. Probably left a little petroleum residue on the lenses, but it is not terrible.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #18 - Nov 12^th, 2019 at 12:50am	Print Post
	I'm sure that would totally depend on the scope mount, receiver hole-placement, and height of rings, but, even if it cleared, the issue Krag safety-lever likely would be clumsy with a scope. p.s. - FredC: I hope your repaired scope never springs a gas leak. You'll blow your mind! I didn't know the old small diameter Weaver scopes were 'gas filled'.


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Doco Overboard KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 57 Location: Eastern Shore of MD Joined: Nov 21^st, 2017 Gender:	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #19 - Nov 12^th, 2019 at 1:52am	Print Post
	I put a Buehler on a rifle and thankfully there were no additional mods that were needed so no worry there. I was also lucky that the pick up cam didn't need to be polished or adjusted for smooth operation but that may not always be the case. Theirs also a long weaver quick detach mount for longer scopes that will almost but not quite allow the safety to work. In my case you could rotate the safety just enough for it to work but it was not quite satisfactory enough for me to not find a Buehler. I paired it with a Weaver K4-E which turned out to be a good combination overall.


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butlersrangers KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 6330 Location: Michigan Bi-Peninsular&Proud Joined: Oct 7^th, 2009	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #20 - Nov 12^th, 2019 at 2:55am	Print Post
	Thanks 'Doco' for the info. on the Buehler Safety for the Krag.


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FredC KCA Official Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 759 Location: Dewees, Texas Joined: May 31^st, 2013 Gender:	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #21 - Nov 12^th, 2019 at 11:03pm	Print Post
	QUOTE "p.s. - FredC: I hope your repaired scope never springs a gas leak. You'll blow your mind! I didn't know the old small diameter Weaver scopes were 'gas filled'." Not sure if it is sealed, was mainly to keep the moisture out so it would not fog in the cold. If there is any left in there and ignited it would not even singe my eyebrows. It is on a .22 you know.


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #22 - Nov 13^th, 2019 at 11:31pm	Print Post
	A good scope for a Krag with one of these sidemounts would be a Rudolph P. Noske 2.5 or 4X. 5-6" of eye relief puts the scope forward of both the bolt handle and safety. They're not easy to find though, and they have a 7/8" tube. Here's a pic of how they were mounted back then. The idea was to keep the scope's line of sight as close as possible to being the same as the irons. Course that's not going to be the case when it's offset to the side as it would have to be on a Krag. To me they are a better scope than either the Alaskan or Texan. One thing I really like is that the objective lens can be adjusted for focus. Even with my bad right eye, I was able to adjust it to a sharp focus, without my glasses. Authors Bob Bell and Nick Stroeble had Noske going under during WWII, but I just spied an ad in a 1947 Field and Stream, he was still making them!
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carbon outlaw KCA Forum Member Offline carbon outlaw Posts: 209 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2014	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #23 - Nov 21^st, 2019 at 4:24pm	Print Post
	they also have these Paul Jaeger scope mounts for krag rifle .. the nice thing about these is that they slide off so you can use the original sights and it makes it easy to take the bolt out ... I was the high bidder on ebay at 55 dollars a few weeks ago on another one of these nice scope mounts so they come up ...


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carbon outlaw KCA Forum Member Offline carbon outlaw Posts: 209 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2014	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #24 - Nov 21^st, 2019 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	and with a scope on ...


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madsenshooter KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 1079 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2009	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #25 - Nov 21^st, 2019 at 7:36pm	Print Post
	For the Noske the plate of your Jaeger mount would have to be further forward. That's something I noted about Weaver mounts, some gunsmiths place them forward, drilling tapping the receiver ring also, and some mount them further back. Guess it depended on the scope they were planning to use. One of my 98s is drilled and tapped forward. With the Weaver plate and high forward Weaver rings to attach to it, I can put a 6x24 scope with a 50mm objective bell on it! I scoped my AR with a scope similar to yours. A Sears Ted Williams version, pre-microtrac, but it tracks fine. Shot a 97 slow fire, and 96-3x rapid from prone with it a couple years ago. Nevermind how offhand went!


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Stretch32 KCA Forum Member Offline Krag Enthusiast! Posts: 52 Joined: Apr 11^th, 2016	Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes Reply #26 - Nov 28^th, 2019 at 2:23am	Print Post
	I ended up finding both an N2 and N3 scope mount since my project receiver is already D+T’d for them. I think, based on initial mock up, that the N3 is the better option. It places the scope a bit higher up and closer to the center line of the barrel / receiver. I also found a Weaver 29S (civilian 330) and a J4. Both are nice but I think the 4x J4 is probably the one I’ll use. It’s coming along.....slowly. It won’t be done this hunting season but it should be good next year. Stretch


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