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Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Oct 10th, 2019 at 11:08pm
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I’m building a sporter for my sister and she’d like a scope on it. My receiver is already D&T’d for a Weaver N series mount but I’m not sure which to use. My stock is a sporter stock with a high comb so the sight level is fairly high relative to an original. Ideally I’d go with an N3 in hopes it would clear the stock safety / bolt while still allowing spent cases to eject cleanly. The N2 mounts lower so I assume I’ll need a low scope safety.

Can someone provide pictures / pros / cons / feedback on whether an N2 or an N3 is better on a sporter Krag?

Also, I’d like to use a small diameter 3/4” scope like a Weaver 330 / J2.5  or Higgins 4x. Has anyone used something like these on a Krag? Can anyone provide feedback / comments / thoughts on how they worked?

Thanks in advance for the help.

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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 2:12am
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The N3 would be the higher one.  You may have to use the higher one for bolt clearance.  The old list of the Q, U, N, and B mounts that I have doesn't have the Krag on it, however.  It's a copy someone gave me out of an old Shooter's Bible.  It seems to me there were some N mounts made that take a 7/8" tube like the Lyman Alaskan and several others.  The Alaskan is a bit pricey now a days, however. 

Found a pic of a list online, N2 and N3 are the right ones for the Krag, with N3 being the higher one.

They are a solid mount, but wheter or not you have enough adjustment on your scope will likely depend on how good a job the machinist did getting the holes parallel to the bore line.  A lot of 3/4 inch scopes are short on eye relief for shooting highpower rifles as they are meant for the low recoil of the 22LR.  For example the Realist 3/4" scopes only had a 2" eye relief.  Probably wouldn't be much of a problem with the recoil of a Krag as long as one has a good hold on the rifle.  Weavers have a more generous eye relief of 3-3.5"
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 2:12am
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When I was a teenager, I had a cut-down Krag with a J2.5 in an "N" (not sure whether 2 or 3) mount. Worked fine as long as you tilted the rifle a bit to eject. Had a Buehler safety.
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 8:58am
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Hi Strech32,

I think your idea of going with the N3 is a good one because it allows for more height.

Here's a sporterized scoped Krag that I picked up a gun show last year.

The rifle has Weaver number 2 detachable side mount that allows for the attachment of a scope with a 1 inch tube.

The scope is a Weaver K10 60-B.

I refinished the stock and replaced the damaged/cracked butt pad with a metal one.

Because the scope sat so low I had to extensively grind/sand down the top of the bolt sleeve to allow it to pass under the scope.  Boy I hated doing that! Angry



  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2019 at 9:01am
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #5 - Oct 12th, 2019 at 2:57am
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Local Boy,

Thats a nice rifle you've built. It also explains to me why the bolt sleeve on my rifle is ground down to the internal rivets. I hadn't thought about having such a large bell on the scope that it hit the bolt.

I've found a 3/4" N2 scope mount but I'm still looking for an N3 in 3/4" size for the higher mounting. I'm going back to the little gun store nearby to see if there might be an N3 scope mount and possibly a Buehler low scope safety in all the boxes of stuff the owner has. Fingers crossed....

I'm still trying to decide which scope to use but I'm thinking a Weaver 330, J2.5 or J4 since the bells are really small and should ease any clearance issues. The J series are for rimfire cartridges but it seems many have used these on lower powered centerfire rifles (like a Krag) with good success.

If anybody has one of these scopes in good condition they'd like to sell let me know.

More to follow.

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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #6 - Oct 12th, 2019 at 1:57pm
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The Weaver "J" scopes were OK for high-power rifles. They were a little cheaper, and smaller scale, so a lot of them wound up on .22s, but they were built just as solidly as the "K" models. You can check this out in contemporary advertising.
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #7 - Oct 12th, 2019 at 2:41pm
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Color case hardened N3s available on gunbroker.  Probably more than you want to spend, but I always liked that finish.
  
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Reply #8 - Nov 10th, 2019 at 11:35pm
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there is quite a few of these old weaver and williams krag scope mounts on ebay ... what I look for is "vintage scope mount lot" they never say there for a krag but there easy to spot ....
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #9 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 1:09am
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Some Weaver mounts, that go on the #2 Base, appear to be taller and allow the Ocular-Lens Housing on a 1 inch scope to clear the issue bolt-sleeve.

Pictured is a 1 inch Weaver detachable side-mount, (model #49350). It is holding a K-3 Weaver. This 'rig' clears the bolt-sleeve, but, does not allow function of the issue Krag safety-lever.
A 'Krag' Buehler safety-lever would allow safety function.

The 1" Weaver K-3 pictured is a lot brighter than 3/4 inch Weaver Scopes.

It is also cheaper than the 3/4" and 7/8" Scopes, sought by Springfield model 1903/A4 'Sniper Rifle' fanciers.
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 4:35pm
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I was looking for the model number of these weaver and williams scope mounts and the williams actually say krag on it and the weaver just have a number 2 stamped ... the weaver the package it came in did list krag as one of the guns it did fit ...
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #11 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 5:58pm
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My Weaver mount is of fairly recent origin. I bought the #2 Base and the #49350 (1" Detachable) Side-Mount, separately, off of eBay.

The Mount is marked 'Weaver Side-1"H'. (I imagine the "H" means High).

I put it on a Krag that came to me with extra Holes. It functions well, except, it blocks the standard Safety-Lever.

  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #12 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 6:05pm
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Attached are some pages from a 1963 Williams, "How to Convert Military Rifles" catalog (cringe).

It does not appear that Williams used numbers to identify their mounts. The Krag Mount was noted as: "QC-SM-Krag".
  
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Re: Weaver N2 / N3 Scope Mounts and 3/4” Scopes
Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 9:02pm
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I have never seen one of those altered safeties ... where would get one ... I did not know they had anything like that ...
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 11th, 2019 at 9:11pm
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I was looking for one of those altered safety on Grandpa's Gun Parts I did not see one although they had "Saddle Bar with Ring" for 55 Dollars ...
  
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