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Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Nov 21st, 2019 at 10:26pm
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There's a shop with one on consignment locally that I visited yesterday. I went home and was reading about them last night (mainly on this forum) and although I'm not super interested in the rifle, I remember reading that not much information exists on these re-barreled ones. So, I was going to take some photos and post what I found online here so the information was available to anyone who takes interest in such things.

My question is, what should I look for, exactly, that would help? I'll take plenty of photos, of course.

Also, if I do decide to buy it, what are they going for these days? I didn't look closely at the condition yesterday, but it wasn't stellar. What is the general price range?

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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #1 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 10:48pm
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The barrel will be marked Stevens Pope.  There is a serial number range but I do not have access to it now.  The ones for the military were marked 22 Cal on the left side.  The commercial ones were not. 
Check the bore.  I am having mine relined because it was trash. 
The stock should be full length.

Price is based on condition and without pictures it is difficult to say.  I have seen ones go for $2800 to $3400 in very good condition at auction.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 21st, 2019 at 11:55pm
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Poyer's 2nd edition states that most of the Stevens-Pope Krag receivers that were altered for the .22 caliber cartridge were in the serial number range of 475,000 or above.
  
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Reply #3 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 2:09am
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This is how Pennsylvania did it back in 1904.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 3:49am
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First time posting images here, wish me luck. If this doesn't work I'll have to try and put them online and go that route.

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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #9 - Nov 22nd, 2019 at 3:47pm
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The bore... there's rifling but it was so dirty/dusty that I couldn't get a good look. It didn't help that I didn't have a good flashlight on me, and the shop owner wasn't in so I couldn't ask for him to run a snake or swab down it. Based on what I saw, I'd say its in decent shape. Not horrible, not great. 

Any information on the rifle is greatly appreciated, and please offer your 2 cents on condition! I don't know anything about how to judge condition on old rifles.

Thanks in advance.
  
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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #10 - Nov 25th, 2019 at 12:50am
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Definitely a Stevens-Pope rifle with the correct front sight. As you probably won't be shooting it a great deal, bore condition shouldn't be a deal breaker. I have a M1898 Gallery Practice 22 caliber rifle that has a great bore, but I have never shot it. I paid $3500.00 for it about 10 years ago. Is this one in that price range?
  
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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #11 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 2:38am
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98src wrote on Nov 25th, 2019 at 12:50am:
Definitely a Stevens-Pope rifle with the correct front sight. As you probably won't be shooting it a great deal, bore condition shouldn't be a deal breaker. I have a M1898 Gallery Practice 22 caliber rifle that has a great bore, but I have never shot it. I paid $3500.00 for it about 10 years ago. Is this one in that price range?


Thanks very much for your insight. This one is a bit lower in price than $3500 but I still have no idea how to rate the condition of such an old rifle, and so no idea what I should pay for it. Would you mind telling me what you think? Brutal honesty and a lesson in evaluation would be welcome!

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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #12 - Nov 26th, 2019 at 3:46pm
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So far as price is concerned, I paid $3000 for my SA (extractor-plate) .22 - in somewhat nicer shape - about ten years ago. I believe that valuation is about the same for either style. The SA arms tend to run in the 475-477K range, but I'd think an S-P re-barrel could be almost anything. Doesn't look like anyone's fooled with that one, but it would be nice to view the bore with a good wiping. Some of the early .22 ammo could be pretty bad if left uncleaned.
  
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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #13 - Nov 27th, 2019 at 1:49am
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Dick Hosmer wrote on Nov 26th, 2019 at 3:46pm:
So far as price is concerned, I paid $3000 for my SA (extractor-plate) .22 - in somewhat nicer shape - about ten years ago. I believe that valuation is about the same for either style. The SA arms tend to run in the 475-477K range, but I'd think an S-P re-barrel could be almost anything. Doesn't look like anyone's fooled with that one, but it would be nice to view the bore with a good wiping. Some of the early .22 ammo could be pretty bad if left uncleaned.


Thanks very much for chiming in! I'm not familiar with what SA means. Would you mind filling me in? Also, what do you think a fair price on this one would be if the barrel condition is roughly similar to the exterior of the rifle? Speaking on condition, how would you describe the condition of this one? Cheers!
  
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Re: Going to look again at Stevens-Pope
Reply #14 - Nov 27th, 2019 at 2:31am
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Dick can answer the rest of your question since he is the most experienced therein but SA means Springfield Armory.

Great thread. I've learned a lot about these rifles from your research into this Krag variant.
  
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